Missions & Complexes

Hi,

I'm kind of a not-so-new player but I've mostly done relic exploration, PI and hauling, so missionning is still new.
I'm currently running L3 in a basic Drake.
Now you know from where I speak (and may already guess that english is not my mother tongue, sorry for any inconvenience).

I've read the forum for some times now, and much is about how better blitz L4, burners and so on.
It generally involves some bling and some SP. Especially some SP ^^

My question is : with T1 BS, and T1 stuff,
- are L4 even feasible ?
- what may one expect as ISK/h doing so ?

You're running a Drake, so this makes it look like you are missile specialized (or at least have more skills in it).

Logical step up would probably be a raven. Probably shield tanked. It has been a long, long time since I ran lv 4s in a raven, but in general, you would be flying with a MJD to jump 100km away and snipe.

General fit would look something like this (it is roughly what I use to use, but it has been a while and they did not have the application mods for missiles. Sorry as I am also blanking on the slot layout of the raven now as well).

Highs:

Cruise missiles
drone link aug (optional. Tractor beam would probably be more useful for some missions.)

mids:

MJD - you could in theory being a mobile depot and swap for afterburner on the fly, but in most cases, you can either slow boat while killing npcs or aim your first jump so the second jump puts you where you need to be
shield tank (min 3-4 slots with one being a booster)

Lows:

Ballistic Control units (3)
fill in the rest to taste

Rigs
2 Rigors
1 Flare
(I think this was the best combo for application)

Note: you can also fit up passive fits, but I never flew one of those. T2 tank is more than likely needed.

My advice: stay with lv3s till you have the necessary skills to fly a bs. You will probably make more money in the short term. Also, you mentioned blitzing lv4s. For the most part, you need a faction bs and good skills if you are going all out.

L4s solo you can earn anywhere from 60m ISK/hour with standard Empire agents in 0.5 systems to over 200m ISK/hour with select SoE agents. This typically entails blitzing and running Burner missions.

not bad at all. If you can pay attention then some t2 damage mods, t2 hardeners, t2 drones, and some support skills and you are over qualified to complete the missions.

as Paranoid Loyd says it may be inefficient in terms of isk/hr. Running lv4s slowly will be less income than running level 3s fast.


this is more or less the copy/paste raven fitting. Probably will need to swap around a few mods to get it all to fit. common subs are the damage control for a co-proc or signal amp, or perhaps drop the booster to a large. Also the MJD is pretty easily swapable for an AB or MWD. personally I'd probably run an MWD, but the MJD can be nice for a gtfo button, where the AB can be used almost constantly and be used to mitigate some incoming damage. Some people use MJDs as a crutch to jump 100km away and snipe, but that just seems inefficient and boring to me. Missile travel time at that distance is just a drag (a barghest can get around that with a huge missile velocity bonus and to some extent a golem can too).

[Raven, low skill]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Nova Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

drones to taste, I usually bring several flights of lights to have different damage types without swapping all the time and have backups too.

I like the cut of your jib sir, good luck to you. Don't burn yourself out grinding missions though, make sure you break it up and explore the other content as well.

He asked about doing it in t1 bs with t1 kit. Blitz and burners require something other than a shitfit raven. He will frankly be lucky to break 30 mil isk/hr.

L4s are easy. so easy as they are predictable

The catch is you need to build the correct tool for the job at hand.
some missions will be easier with certain ships and other with different kinds.

example,
Reacon 1 of 3 can be completed in less then a minute using shuttle.

Reference to macros removed. - ISD Fractal

As stated in OP, I do relic exploration, PI, hauling / interregional trade...
I'm in fact trying to diversify into L4, not seing them as the only way ^^

Thx again for all the answers, every bit of info is a good one.

Do you think that in early stage, when you're slow, salvaging / looting is worth it, or even with low skills / fit, it's better to go LP and chain missions rather than kill full room ?

Stanijiro, get ahold of me ingame. I am an old vet returning to game. I have many years experience in all aspects of the game. I am looking for a mission buddy as well.

L4 will give you unique view sights. Cathedrals, bunkers, drone structures etc...
Loot divercity is often the only thing, that makes you realy look for the mission to complete. You skip the loot - mission becomes your job with no surprise at the end.
Very same mission will give you different experience if runned in Machariel (brawler), Dominix (sniper) or Rattlesnake (cleaning DPS machine).
Blitzing the mission means you skip many of suggested missions cause only very limited list of missions can be blitzed effectively. Skipping missions will ruin your standings and standing grind is no fun, IMHO. This is the game, it supposed to be fun. You blitz = you do the mission in very static, same way. Its a job, not game - buy the plex and save you from troubles.

Low skill L4 starter: Dominix with large micro jump drive and sentry drones. Drop mobile tractor unit, jump 100 km away from NPC and kill them as they burn toward you with 0 transversal speed. Range is your tank, drones is your way how to adjust your damage type and be ewar immune. Jump back to MTU, scope it and go to next room. Skip wrecks, that are not yet pulled to MTU.
Use meta modules instead of T2 and downgrade or skip guns untill you can use this fit:
[Dominix, 150km optimal range tank]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Shadow Serpentis Large Armor Repairer
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Large Micro Jump Drive
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio L
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio L
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Radio L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Drone Scope Chip II
Large Ionic Field Projector I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor II

Warden II x5
Mission specific sentry drone II x5
medium and small drones

Once you have all skills to run this fit you can start to skill missiles and caldary ships to gat maximum out of that:
[Rattlesnake, L4 RHML 90 km]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I

mission specific sentry drones II x2
small and 2 heavy drones
Warden II x2

This fit should let you clean entire room much more quickly, then Dominix, but you will have to tank, kite, know triggers etc... You have to LMJD jump TOWARDS the rats, not away from them as in case of Dominix.

Or skip all this and go straight to Machariel, with its navigation bonuses it is very popular L4 tool. Especially among people,who blitz missions.