Intergalactic Summit

You understand that what your proposing would open your people up for anyone to attack right? Simply inviting another Elder Fleet and other similar attacks that would normally be prevented by the treaties the big 4 agreed to? Can't say I'm a huge fan of them (my security status proves that), nor would I anything but prosper from such a turn of events but at this point would that be wise? You already have the Drifters and Sansha forces to contend with, wish to add the Matari and more than likely Gallante to the mix as well?

Sounds like a Gutter Press story.

Except less plausible.

If those treaties were actually enforced, then...

Following the Elder Fleet attack, and Sanmatar Shakor's acceptance of the Thukkers (who were part of such) into the Republic, means that the Empire, Federation, State, and the DED itself, would have committed to military action to bring the Elders to justice, with the probable side effect of the Minmatar being reduced to a non-spaceflight civilisation.

That Shakor's Republic still exists, shows that those treaties are effectively null and void already.

Let's just keep it at this, you don't want Khanid having us raining tactical emp rounds on their civilian population, I don't want Eram's civilian population to receive a similar fate or reclaiming or whatever. If war truely breaks out what's stopping such a fate? We don't fear you anymore, we have a little bit more of a military as opposed to when we had the time of peace before your people graced our presence. The way things are now only the militarys are fighting, NOT the civilians. Why support anything else? Reclaiming souls is rather hard when neither side is around to receive the message.

I know what your saying. My own opinions aside on it, that's why I said "Normally." The specific event that took place I don't exactly get but by no means am I arguing the end result. How many similar attacks or worse would have happened if the treaties weren't in place? Obviously the desire was there but nothing else. Why?

Well, this was some big news. I'm personally disappointed that Raish was chosen as the representative, considering the very public and very controversial way he conducted himself towards our late Empress, but if SoCT has been accepted to the Inner Circle then logic dictates the Amarr Representative must have accepted it also. Otherwise we'd have had a statement already from our diplomats condemning the ascention.

On that basis, I think it prudent my fellow Amarrians bite their tongue on what the Empire should or shouldn't do until we hear from our betters, or at the least enthrone our new Emperor or Empress.

Dr. Valate.

It is perhaps slightly exaggerated, however.

Consider that CONCORD's main directive as it were, is to ensure the survival of humans as a species and as a civilisation.

Now consider that one of the signatories to the treaties of CONCORD, accepted into its realm, members of a group that deployed genetic weapons onto several densely inhabited worlds belonging to a different signatory, as well as conducting extensive orbital bombardments of said densely populated worlds.

If the CONCORD signatories won't do anything when one of their own breaks the treaties, why should any non-signatory power be obliged not to break the terms of the treaties ?


Consider the scenario, in which a Covenant geneticist has identified a uniquely Minmatar gene sequence, and has an engineered virus weapon ready for that sequence to be entered, arming the weapon as it were.
Deploying the "De-Minmatarisation" weapon would result, within a few years, in the extermination of 99.9% of the Minmatar population of all of New Eden.
Now, what treaty obligation would prevent said Covenant geneticist from... selling that device to Nauplius ?

The Empire may be waiting on the coronation before addressing this issue.

All this has me wondering what exactly is going on with the Jove Empire. They seem to have undergone a rapid decline after the appearance of Caroline's Star and the Drifters and now with this transfer of their responsibilities and assets to the SoCT they seem to have withdrawn completely from the galactic community.

I also get the feeling that the Society knows more about the Drifters than they let on, given that it sounds as though they believe a peaceful resolution to the Drifter situation is possible. This also seems to coincide with the Drifters retreating to their wormholes. I love a good mystery but I hope the next piece of this puzzle reveals more of the big picture of what is going on here.

This news is disquieting in the extreme. The lack of transparency and accountability is astonishing. To begin with, the Society is not a government. By what right does it assume powers assigned by treaty to empire governments? Merely upon the say-so of the Jove?

I would like to know how the Federation representative felt it appropriate to accept such a proposal without reference to the Senate and due debate. Was the president informed? The SoCT representative is a man wanted for questioning by a signatory power on the grave charge of involvement in the assassination of a Head of State. If the Jove Directorate is removing itself from involvement in the affairs of New Eden, surely they must abandon their seat on a body regulating said cluster?

I expect the Senate to have a field day seeking clarification on these questions. Nonetheless, Lord Onzo speaks wisely when counselling a certain caution whilst more information is sought. Given that the Amarr Empire clearly has a legitimate grievance when it comes to the choice of SoCT representative (outside the merely procedural) I feel support must be offered to whatever they decide is the correct course of action - up to and including the indictment of Raish.




I fear you place too much trust in the relationships now failing under the fluid loyalties of capsules. We have Minmatar openly courting the Caldari - there are no guarantees that the Federation does not stand alone. We would stand by our obligations to the Republic because a substantial part of our population would wish it so, but I cannot be certain the reverse would apply. The old alliances are breaking down, and the balance of power - mutually assured destruction, if you will - is a bluff that may one day be called with disastrous effect. Indeed, by invading Amarr alone, the Drifters may already have called that bluff and seen how little the great empires care to support each other.

CONCORD may be far from perfect, but it binds us by treaty to a common end and a bulwark against chaos. It is why it should not be toyed with in this cavalier manner.