EVE General Discussion

Trolling aside FAC warfare needs to be added to high sec. Something something navy.

I'll tell you what would happen if you added a flag system your way. Naughty horrible people not unlike myself would park ALTs and friends not far away non flagged and wait for one of us to pick up a fight then we would dumpster the poor sod by flagging for PvP. Unflag and repeat

Why should there be no consequences for fighting EVERYWHERE in EVE? Everything that the fighters want is in Null. Except the freighters of the non PVP corps with all their valuable goods. If you want fights why attack a freighter that can't shoot back?

Simple truth: You don't understand EVE's economic! Without all these shiny freighters and the carebear miners how will you get your ships/modules etc? If they stop to mine ore worth trillions of Isk each month you will have to do it yourself while some other guy is polishing his laser because now YOU are a shiny target. Try to mine your own Mercoxit without getting shot.

This is not WOW or any other game where the items are created by the computer but by players that you want to kill. If you want to have an impression what you are asking for try to mine for 2 days in Non-Sov Null and post the results. Doesn't matter if you mine just veldspar but the number of lost ships. And then tell us if you think that this would be fun for anyone who will pay money to mine the ore for your new machariel. Because otherwise you will have to do it yourself.......have fun!

Can I has your stuff?

I'd like to start Lowsec mining and am wondering if you could supply me with an Orca and Hulk.

Then you an start sharpening your lasers.

Your's,

an aspirant miner.
I mined myself 2 carriers, a dread and a freighter when I was in nul, semi afk, while ratting or roaming with the crew. Yep.

Sounds okay to me, I volunteered to PvP. I can do the same to you.
Nobody said combat is fair

edit. This combat option just makes it much less convoluted to pew.
And way easier to find a willing opponent.

The question stands: why do you want to fight people that don't want to? I've just got shot out of my ship in Null with my loot. Made a mistake, will learn from it. I accept it! But why do you want to battle people that can't or don't want to shoot back? You have Nullsec, why do you need High-Sec too?

It's not for the fight because these people can't give you a good fight. So it is either for the loot or the fun in grieving other players. In Null you have thousands of players willing to fight you but you want these thousands that don't want to: why?
Eve is still there after 10+ years because it has contend for everyone. From the miner, PvE ratter to PVP players. Do you really think eve would survive only with PvP players making it just another space shooter? Or does just the mixture of all these playstyles make EVE the fun game it is?

well, after reading several pages of gripes and suggestions i have come to a serious rationalization.

all of you are attempting to seek a balance, or level of fairness, to the war dec system.

point 1) EVE IS NOT FAIR. never has been, never will be. please embrace this concept with open arms.

point 2) Eve is a game of wealth and power.
most of the posts here relate to a few pilots's concerns about being "powerless" against larger corporations or mercs.
welcome to eve. you are jealous about a corporation, or alliance, being able to accomplish their goals and realizing it is now more difficult to accomplish yours. they have what you don't have.....wealth and power. as such, many want to restrict/limit this imbalance in an attempt to make things equal. please see point 1. all of you have the ability to have as much, if not more, power by working hard to accomplishing your in-game goals. after all, the "big guy" was once a "little guy".
however, the game provides "the little guy" with tools to become "the big guy". that's called the ally system.

point 3) in a feeble attempt to "make things fair", there have been suggestions about skill based war dec queues.
seriously? if anyone trained every skill available it would take over 20 years to accomplish. you want to add another one?
in real life the over abundance of law creates bureaucratic red tape which delays things getting done. wouldn't a new skill delay what needs to be done? yes, it would.

point 3) what makes eve so good is the lack of "rules". let's try to keep it that way.

end rationalization.

Was on before downtime. Yes, there are skill injectors. But skills aren't the problem.
The issue is how players won't find solutions to their in-game problems. They want "government" to do that for them.
There are many solutions available to players before war comes their way & after war arrives.

Sadly no. The navy intervene meaning you have to be in ship capable of tanking navy as well. Limits fw to low-sec or station games in high-sec

For sure you can avoid/tank the navy but it really doesn't promote a very random player vs random player experience like you get in lowsec FW areas. RvB is actually a great spot to do something similar tho and I hear they are making a comeback?

Err...that's not how injectors work. But it was a dumb idea so I do agree with you there.