EVE General Discussion

first, you're welcome.
Second, fighting had already stopped before the nerf.
Last, The alliances have long ago declared their support for botting and such. They don't even need CCP to okay it. The CSM is the 0.0 leadership so if you think corruption will be dealt with, think again.

I heard there were buy one, get one free sales promotions for SuperCarries now.

But if 0.0 is the RMT botters
And 0.0 is the only real high stakes players

Then who is buy RMT?

I've wondered this too. There are so many very easy ways to either earn or buy ISK in this game w/out handing a credit card to some strange black-market web site. Who the heck is keeping the RMT people in business?

Suicide gankers are also all 0.0 player alts

THE CIRCLE CLOSES

Pvpers, I would assume.

Well as far as the nerf, I don't know...I guess since people can't log off to avoid losing their toys, all of a sudden these toys mean a little more. That's a good thing. But, like the others, I wouldn't call the nerf the reason that SC losses are dropping faster than flies. It lies with this big ol hearty handshake the almost the entirety of Nul has got going on.

It's funny, I keep seeing all this garbage about setting New Eden on fire, letting it burn, blah blah blah. But let's face it, Hisec is between 25-35% of New Eden, so it's more about burning the suburbs down while the ghettos and Iran and North Korea sit around not getting the bad touch. A lot of those Nulsec corps and alliances are too busy spreading cheek for one another while rattling their sabers at the crowd that minds its own business. It's the equivalent of Al-Quaeda, Hezbollah, and the Taliban declaring open war on Canada because they're just not causing enough of a ruckus.

As a pyromaniac, where is this fire? Bring it all down, ffs. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of impotent rhetoric while some of the biggest groups just sit back and stockpile. I've played Risk, and when you let the big boys take everything while you sit back, someday you aren't going to be able to stop them when they are finally ready to wipe the board clean.

The result is more boring than Hisec is now.

Actually, null was dominated by frigs and cruisers at one point, believe it or not; simply because BS's were fkn expensive, and few people had them. Ask the old Goons how they took Delve the first time.

Nobody in Null wants there sandcastle kicked over so it has more to do with the stagnant state of pvp out that way. roughly 4 years ago null sec was burning with dozens of conflicts. irc v atlas insurgency v NC BOB v Goons just to name a few. Fastforward to 2012 and it has deevolved into what you see before you.

Actually the removal of SC capability to be the super PWNmobile was smart. As for the after effect of them not being fielded without support, this is closer to real warfare.

The best weapons are the ones that do not need to be used, because most warfare is intimidation. Any combat simulation we see without these elements shows an unrealistic "God Mode". Supers were this mode. But not any more.

In the days of olde, for example, the heavy warhorse was one of the most formidable battlefield weapons. The Germans with their Greatswords and the Scottish variant known as the Claymore (they were essentially German blades) made fielding of warhorses VERY expensive.

Now let's think of this. You ever seen a real Shire horse up close? They weigh a ton. You would be hard pressed to kill one with a sword, especially with a rider trying to kill you, and footmen trying to do likewise.

Hence that scene from "Braveheart" where William Wallace cut the forelegs off a warhorse with a 12th century Claymore was, in the real battles, a rare scene indeed because ground SUPPORT elements made it hard to get within range

BUT

the damage potential of just one Claymore in the field, even if it could not kill the horse, could remove a very expensive to breed, feed, and train animal from service.

Expense.

All warfare is economic warfare where victory is concerned.

So you see, they didn't put knights on these 1 ton shire horses and let them run about the fields slaying their foes because there were weapons that, even is lacking the total destructive power, could render a lot of invested time and money useless.

Hence the need to nerf the SC while adding BCs that can field BS weaponry.

Just because something is big and expensive, does not mean it's the God Mode. It's perfectly intended and a good result that SC owners become afraid to field them without some expectation that they have a chance to get away if things go south.

It's much like the reason why people don't go to 0.0: they don't expect to get their ship back out or even field one without some reasonable expectation that they have some chance of survival.

Therefore we are seeing SC owners behaving like high sec carebears and proving that once more, there are bears and there are nullbears.


Carry on.