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High Sec Standings

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Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-12-16 17:38:45 UTC
Ok. I just formed an one person alt corp (with another character) two days ago. The character has faction standings of 4.91 and will hopefully have standings over 5.0 by the end of the day. The empire faction in question is still showing 0.0 towards my new corp. Is this a bug? Have standing requirements for POS anchoring been eliminated? Do I need to open an office or something?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#2 - 2011-12-16 17:44:20 UTC
Standings are calculated every day at DT. Any character who has been in the corp for at least 7 days and has an entry in their character sheet standings for a particular corp/faction will be counted. (Which you can query by going into the Corp UI, Standings, right-click "show compositions".)

So until your corp is 7+ days old, it has no standings.
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-12-16 18:43:07 UTC
Will my corps initial standing = my current standing or will it slowly increase towards current standing?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#4 - 2011-12-16 20:17:32 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Will my corps initial standing = my current standing or will it slowly increase towards current standing?


The old method was a gradual shift. The new method = instant calculation based on whoever is a member of the corporation during the DT window.

(And only raw standing gets counted, Connections & Diplomacy are not taken into account when the average of all members is calculated.)
SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#5 - 2011-12-16 20:18:03 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Will my corps initial standing = my current standing or will it slowly increase towards current standing?



Your corp standings will equal the average of the standings of all members.
Farrina
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-12-16 21:07:56 UTC
If you want to boost your standings even higher (maybe you want the added security of a 0.7 system), you could run the tutorial missions. After you complete each 10-part tutorial agent, you get a significant faction boost. If you do all 15, you could realistically net +3.0 to your standings, depending on your Social skill level.

Tutorial agents are here (It was a pain to gather this list because CCP never updates their freakin' Wiki and half the information is from 2008 and outdated.)

Caldari -
Akianiavas
Uitra
Jouvulen

Amarr -
Pasha
Deepari
Conoban


Gallente -
Clellinon
Couster
Trossere

Minmatar -
Embod
Hadaugago
Malukker
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-17 00:17:30 UTC
I don't know running L4 missions might not be as quick but it's at least not as bad as doing the tutorial multiple times. How does a high sec POS anchoring service work? If the game is going to use my unmodified faction standing, I'm probably going to just want to pay somebody to put this thing up.
Farrina
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-12-17 00:26:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Farrina
Jas Dor wrote:
I don't know running L4 missions might not be as quick but it's at least not as bad as doing the tutorial multiple times. How does a high sec POS anchoring service work? If the game is going to use my unmodified faction standing, I'm probably going to just want to pay somebody to put this thing up.


Not sure about the service, but it only takes a couple of hours to complete the tutorials in the solar system, and you walk away with about +1.0 standings per system completed. (About 0.20 per agent). My characters are each sitting at about 4.0 standings with Caldari (Social V) and I haven't done a single mission other than the tutorials. You can also do "Circle Agents" to also bring it higher. And then there's COSMOS/Data Centers, although I haven't delved into those yet.

Now compare this to running missions: You have to run 16 missions, and then you get a storyline. If each mission takes 30 minutes to complete, that's 8 hours for a bit of standing - and that's if you can do the storyline mission: If you're trying to maintain positive standings with the other 3 major factions, you can't accept any missions that requires you to take offensive action against them.

Now you can speed this up doing Currier missions. You could do the same thing in 2 - 3 hours, but not sure if the Storyline mission would net you the same standings.
Xuzi
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-17 00:31:26 UTC
The Sisters Epic Arc has a nice faction standing gain for the empire of your choice. If you haven't done it or haven't done it in a few months then you might want to whip it out. It takes a while, but it is equivalent to what you would gain from a good L4 encounter storyline. Added bonus is that it doesn't count against the other factions like other faction gains would.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#10 - 2011-12-17 11:17:55 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
I don't know running L4 missions might not be as quick but it's at least not as bad as doing the tutorial multiple times. How does a high sec POS anchoring service work? If the game is going to use my unmodified faction standing, I'm probably going to just want to pay somebody to put this thing up.



To use a service you need the corp to be held by an alt (with nobody else in it) with no standings with the target faction. Then the service provider sits in your corp for 7 days and then you let people back in, and have 7 days to anchor your POS before the other people drag standings back down.

Consider doing COSMOS missions or using the Data Centers if you're that close. Data centers turn your isk(in the form of tags) into standings.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Celgar Thurn
Department 10
#11 - 2011-12-17 17:01:36 UTC
COSMOS missions are VERY good for increasing your standings. I can recommend the Minmatar ones in the Nakugard COSMOS area.

On the other hand I found the higher lvl of data centers to be very poor in terms of the standings return they give. I handed in twenty Bronze tags and was most disappointed with the amount of standing increase given. Less than from a good storyline mission so I won't be doing that again.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-12-17 18:18:03 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
ok i did everything in this thread (evewiki etc) asked in help and i was given the right answer in there. i opened a ticket in case i waited 7 days to find it was bugged (like i read from some old posts) anyway i found the answer and managed to cancel the ticket before wasting any gm's time.

as with most things in eve the answer is hidden away just need to find it............ if you look up the faction you want to set up in space in ie caldari state then goto their standings tab right click the "standings with you" corp tab and theres a message there that states - NPC standings towards a player corporation are calculated from the average of all members individual standings. only members that are in the player corporation for more than seven days straight count toward the standings average.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2011-12-17 19:10:52 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
ok i did everything in this thread (evewiki etc) asked in help and i was given the right answer in there. i opened a ticket in case i waited 7 days to find it was bugged (like i read from some old posts) anyway i found the answer and managed to cancel the ticket before wasting any gm's time.

as with most things in eve the answer is hidden away just need to find it............ if you look up the faction you want to set up in space in ie caldari state then goto their standings tab right click the "standings with you" corp tab and theres a message there that states - NPC standings towards a player corporation are calculated from the average of all members individual standings. only members that are in the player corporation for more than seven days straight count toward the standings average.


You petitioned before you ran into an issue?Shocked

Wonder what the text was:

"Well, I herd you had a bug, and I haven't sufferd from it yet, but I wanna jump in line now..." Roll

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-12-18 03:01:28 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
I don't know running L4 missions might not be as quick but it's at least not as bad as doing the tutorial multiple times. How does a high sec POS anchoring service work? If the game is going to use my unmodified faction standing, I'm probably going to just want to pay somebody to put this thing up.



To use a service you need the corp to be held by an alt (with nobody else in it) with no standings with the target faction. Then the service provider sits in your corp for 7 days and then you let people back in, and have 7 days to anchor your POS before the other people drag standings back down.

Consider doing COSMOS missions or using the Data Centers if you're that close. Data centers turn your isk(in the form of tags) into standings.

I

I've never heard of data centers before (and I've been playing this game for awhile). Can you give me some information on them?
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#15 - 2011-12-18 05:23:46 UTC
Brock Nelson
#16 - 2011-12-18 06:00:37 UTC
Data Centre
Cosmo
Epic Arc

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2011-12-18 10:09:50 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
I don't know running L4 missions might not be as quick but it's at least not as bad as doing the tutorial multiple times. How does a high sec POS anchoring service work? If the game is going to use my unmodified faction standing, I'm probably going to just want to pay somebody to put this thing up.



To use a service you need the corp to be held by an alt (with nobody else in it) with no standings with the target faction. Then the service provider sits in your corp for 7 days and then you let people back in, and have 7 days to anchor your POS before the other people drag standings back down.

Consider doing COSMOS missions or using the Data Centers if you're that close. Data centers turn your isk(in the form of tags) into standings.

I

I've never heard of data centers before (and I've been playing this game for awhile). Can you give me some information on them?


Better than AMARR VICTOR

GOOGLE VICTOR

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-12-25 12:36:19 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
RubyPorto wrote:
fuer0n wrote:
ok i did everything in this thread (evewiki etc) asked in help and i was given the right answer in there. i opened a ticket in case i waited 7 days to find it was bugged (like i read from some old posts) anyway i found the answer and managed to cancel the ticket before wasting any gm's time.

as with most things in eve the answer is hidden away just need to find it............ if you look up the faction you want to set up in space in ie caldari state then goto their standings tab right click the "standings with you" corp tab and theres a message there that states - NPC standings towards a player corporation are calculated from the average of all members individual standings. only members that are in the player corporation for more than seven days straight count toward the standings average.


You petitioned before you ran into an issue?Shocked

Wonder what the text was:

"Well, I herd you had a bug, and I haven't sufferd from it yet, but I wanna jump in line now..." Roll


.maybe if the cough "queue" system was more transparent this wouldn't be the case. would it. honestly people waiting days for an answer to a petition. no wonder some paying customers go elsewhere.

and i petitioned to get confirmation as to how the game mechanic works because there is so much conflicting and incorrect info out there.



OH and btw someone from CCP needs to look into this as theres yet more conflicting info, standings "with you" tab shows

caldari state > insert corp name 0.00 (neutral) yet when you right click it you get

standings transactions - from caldari state to "insert corp name"

NPC standings towards a player corporation are calculated from the average of all members' individual standings. Only members that are in the player corporation for more than seven days straight count toward the standing average.

current value 8.93 (excellent)


so one tab says zero standings the other shows 8.93 and i'm able to anchor a medium caldari control tower.

ShockedRoll

edit 2 :just tested and even though is shows zero standings (even after downtime) the 8.93 standings are being used. very very low on the list but someone should bug report it. i would if i knew how Roll
veshna wildsun
Echoes of the Hollow
#19 - 2011-12-30 02:20:05 UTC
I had to petition a GM to have them update my standing.
Alain Kinsella
#20 - 2011-12-30 08:58:59 UTC
Xuzi wrote:
The Sisters Epic Arc has a nice faction standing gain for the empire of your choice. If you haven't done it or haven't done it in a few months then you might want to whip it out. It takes a while, but it is equivalent to what you would gain from a good L4 encounter storyline. Added bonus is that it doesn't count against the other factions like other faction gains would.


Quick warning about this: In most situations where you gain standings, you'll also get changes to that faction's allies and enemies (amounts vary, there's a table in the wiki). Unfortunately the SoE Arc does not do that - it only bumps the faction you allied with.

So if you're trying to gain standing for a faction that's not part of the four 'main' ones, the SoE Arc will not help you. Why would you do this? Well, there *is* Empire space controlled by other Factions, and you'll need standings/charters to anchor, just like the others.

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