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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#81 - 2016-03-13 07:35:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Deitra Vess wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
All I hear from Mizhara are rationalizations and excuses. Just admit you have neither the strength of arms nor the moral courage to stand up to the Butcher and be done with it.

So this time, now that hash doesn't even exist anymore and they are all out in syndicate are you going to turn away my offer to help destroying his tower? Or is the PR stunt too big to pass up? No excuses anymore...... I'm not even in the militia and if I am, I'll drop out...


I'm not sure those are the only possible reasons, but I, also, would be interested in what answer Ms. Vess gets ...

... when it matters. We don't really have a target right now. The last one's rubble, and the former captives are apparently out of our reach.

Spirits be kind to them.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#82 - 2016-03-13 08:40:23 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
All I hear from Mizhara are rationalizations and excuses. Just admit you have neither the strength of arms nor the moral courage to stand up to the Butcher and be done with it.


I can vividly remember you and yours running with your tails between your legs when we did come for a tower of his. The clown could be bested by anyone. It's the third parties dimwits invite through sloppy intel leaks we lack the numbers for, or when Provibloc comes along for the ride. You and yours haven't posed a significant threat to us without bringing Pyre, CVA or DnG with you for quite some time, nor have the Clown.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#83 - 2016-03-13 11:16:01 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
All I hear from Mizhara are rationalizations and excuses. Just admit you have neither the strength of arms nor the moral courage to stand up to the Butcher and be done with it.


How much moral courage and strength of arms is required to shoot an undefended small tower and still manage to screw it up?

//initiate slow_clap.exe

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#84 - 2016-03-13 13:51:56 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
All I hear from Mizhara are rationalizations and excuses. Just admit you have neither the strength of arms nor the moral courage to stand up to the Butcher and be done with it.

So this time, now that hash doesn't even exist anymore and they are all out in syndicate are you going to turn away my offer to help destroying his tower? Or is the PR stunt too big to pass up? No excuses anymore...... I'm not even in the militia and if I am, I'll drop out...


I'm not sure those are the only possible reasons, but I, also, would be interested in what answer Ms. Vess gets ...

... when it matters. We don't really have a target right now. The last one's rubble, and the former captives are apparently out of our reach.

Spirits be kind to them.

Ya, I'm more than willing to bide my time on that answer honestly. As far as them being out of reach..... I hope for the best case scenario in that they are atleast getting some form of support.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#85 - 2016-03-13 19:15:45 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
All I hear from Mizhara are rationalizations and excuses. Just admit you have neither the strength of arms nor the moral courage to stand up to the Butcher and be done with it.


How much moral courage and strength of arms is required to shoot an undefended small tower and still manage to screw it up?

//initiate slow_clap.exe


Evidently it still takes more than the Matari can muster.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#86 - 2016-03-13 20:04:20 UTC
You see, Aldrith, it is like this:

When it's an Amarr with a slavery operation, well, that's an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Sani Sabik with a slavery operation, well, that's also an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Sansha's Nation slavery operation, well, that's an Amarr mess, because Kuvakei purchased some slaves from the Empire to do his research with, so therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's an Angel Cartel slavery operation, well, many of the more noticeable Cartel capsuleers are Amarr (actually Khanid), so therefore that's an Amarr mess, and thusly the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's an Angel Cartel slavery operation being run by ethnic Minmatar, well, since some degenerate Holders buy slaves from the Cartel, then... yes, it's an Amarr mess, thus the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Gallente owned slavery operation, then, because Quafe Corporation was a mediator in some dispute in the Empire many years ago, it is therefore clearly an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Caldari owned slavery operation, then, because the State and the Empire are allies, then, it's an Amarr mess, and the Amarr should clean it up.

Moving goalposts ? the damn things have Jump drives.


I suspect this is one of those "learned helplessness" psychological things. Possibly some kind of Gallente influence on the Minmatar psyche. So accustomed to having others intervene on their behalf, they refuse to help themselves.


How many Minmatar does it take to change a lightbulb ?

None. It is the Day of Darkness, and Minmatar society is indelibly and permanently changed.

Hurr.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2016-03-13 20:27:06 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
You see, Aldrith, it is like this:

When it's an Amarr with a slavery operation, well, that's an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Sani Sabik with a slavery operation, well, that's also an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Sansha's Nation slavery operation, well, that's an Amarr mess, because Kuvakei purchased some slaves from the Empire to do his research with, so therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's an Angel Cartel slavery operation, well, many of the more noticeable Cartel capsuleers are Amarr (actually Khanid), so therefore that's an Amarr mess, and thusly the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's an Angel Cartel slavery operation being run by ethnic Minmatar, well, since some degenerate Holders buy slaves from the Cartel, then... yes, it's an Amarr mess, thus the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Gallente owned slavery operation, then, because Quafe Corporation was a mediator in some dispute in the Empire many years ago, it is therefore clearly an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Caldari owned slavery operation, then, because the State and the Empire are allies, then, it's an Amarr mess, and the Amarr should clean it up.

Moving goalposts ? the damn things have Jump drives.


I suspect this is one of those "learned helplessness" psychological things. Possibly some kind of Gallente influence on the Minmatar psyche. So accustomed to having others intervene on their behalf, they refuse to help themselves.


How many Minmatar does it take to change a lightbulb ?

None. It is the Day of Darkness, and Minmatar society is indelibly and permanently changed.

Hurr.


I understand, from the Republic media, that the Tribes are united under the banner of 'Amarr-Slavery-Boo-Hiss!'.

Can anyone conceive of any other way the Republic will respond about the subject?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Sinti Vailatti
Angelis Exploration
#88 - 2016-03-13 20:27:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Sinti Vailatti
Valerie Valate wrote:
You see, Aldrith, it is like this:

When it's an Amarr with a slavery operation, well, that's an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Sani Sabik with a slavery operation, well, that's also an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Sansha's Nation slavery operation, well, that's an Amarr mess, because Kuvakei purchased some slaves from the Empire to do his research with, so therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's an Angel Cartel slavery operation, well, many of the more noticeable Cartel capsuleers are Amarr (actually Khanid), so therefore that's an Amarr mess, and thusly the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's an Angel Cartel slavery operation being run by ethnic Minmatar, well, since some degenerate Holders buy slaves from the Cartel, then... yes, it's an Amarr mess, thus the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Gallente owned slavery operation, then, because Quafe Corporation was a mediator in some dispute in the Empire many years ago, it is therefore clearly an Amarr mess, therefore the Amarr should clean it up.

When it's a Caldari owned slavery operation, then, because the State and the Empire are allies, then, it's an Amarr mess, and the Amarr should clean it up.

Moving goalposts ? the damn things have Jump drives.


I suspect this is one of those "learned helplessness" psychological things. Possibly some kind of Gallente influence on the Minmatar psyche. So accustomed to having others intervene on their behalf, they refuse to help themselves.


How many Minmatar does it take to change a lightbulb ?

None. It is the Day of Darkness, and Minmatar society is indelibly and permanently changed.

Hurr.



Kinda..


Amarr deals with slavery issues because they're the biggest suppliers and traders in the Galaxy. They mop up the Sani stuff because you guys are an offshoot.

The Sansha are really everyone's problem. The Amarr step up a bit more because they're afraid of becoming slaves themselves. No, really. It's so totally against their concept of religion to have a Holder become a mindless slave to another, it's almost existential for them.

When it's a Cartel problem we clean it up....or we blame Serpentis. Could go either way.

The Caldari and Gallente don't have slaves or slave problems. Hadn't you heard? They say it quite loudly.

"Learned helplessness?" If that's a thing, then it's because the Republic rhetoric relies on it.

“Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?”
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#89 - 2016-03-13 20:45:56 UTC
Slavery, hiss boo! Hiss boo! Oh... oh, damn. I threw out my back. Cylindrical Kameira! Send the mobile shiatsu parlor!