Assembly Hall

Analyse:

A year or so back:
A while ago some material specification of T2 ships changed. This was an indirect nerf and buff to some moon materials aka moongoo. Moon have rarity classifications. There are 5 classes,
#1. Gasses
#2. Rarity 8 (Cobalt, Scandium, Titanium, Thungsten)
#3. Rarity 16 (Cadmium, Vanadium, Chromium, Platinum)
#4. Rarity 32 (Caesium, technetium, Hafnium, Mercury)
#5. Rarity 64 (Promethium, Dysprosium, Neodymium, Thulium)


Before this change of material specification, certain R64´s were very profitable. Those were mostly Promethium & Dysprosium and in lesser extend Neodymium and Thulium. Moon mining gives always a fixed amount of moon materials that can be harvested. At peek market times the Rarity 64 moons made:
Promethium 7b a month
Dysprosium 9b a month
Neodymium 3,5b a month
Thulium 4,5b a month

Current Situation:

After the T2 material spec change a certain bottleneck moongoo item became very valuable. Some people agrued this is intentional or a hasty mistake that got overlooked. It brought us in the current situation that a Rarity 32 moongoo is more valuable than 6 Rarity 64 moons together. This screenshot explains a lot:moon distri.

How this could happen, who knows but its effects are wide spread across EVE. Neodymium & Thulium are giving a few hundred million profit a month and Dyspro and Prom are hardly getting above 1 bilion isk profit marker per month. A technetium moon is worth equal or more than the highest R64 profit moon a year ago. 1 Technetium moon is worth 6 R64 moons. This can not be right. On the screenshot u can conclude multiple explanations and combine them. The Technetium moons are the least spread moons in the game. They are clustered tighter in a handful of region bordering each other. The geographic location of these moons make it a close cluster, a BFF magnet. This also creates an trading cartel. Since the items made from Technetium is an T2 production bottleneck, an cartel has an extra steep impact on the market prices. The ability to apply this and the isk benefits coming forth out of this creates and unhealthy political situation. It is comparable to an Arms Race, only this Isk Race is one sided and unmatchable. The defenders can whelp many more fleets and suicide on anything, bankrupting attackers due the hugh unbalanced free isk income.

Fail Indicators:
-R32 more valuable than 6x R64´s
-Cartel forming
-Non Invasion Pacts (NIP) for protection of isk farming (blue lists)
-Dynamic 0.0 politic situation broken
-Moon geographic location not comparable to other moon math´s
-Dynamic 0.0 pvp situation is broken (north = boring)
-Technetium products is T2 bottleneck
- One racial moon product is way more used than the races´s products

My proposal is to relook at the T2 material change, or review moon mining in general, or review moon distribution (it’s a prehistory distribution out 2004).

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Not sure about exact details in your post (wheter they are correct or not) but I agree that this should be looked into and fixed.

first thing should be revision of production chains and availability of certain moon goo.

If this will not help (for example all the tweaking would only lead to creating new rare bottleneck) add some sort of dynamic distribution, so anyone can have a bite of those :D

I have also speculated in moon minerals and would like to see this change!

While I salute your effort at using logic and game structure facts to highlight EVE resource imbalances, and your attempt to provide solutions is above and beyond, I feel it necessary to point out that AT CCP NOBODY IS LISTENING OR CARES !

So if you would kindly return to posting nothing but limitless praise and adulation for EVE, the management would appreciate it.

My previous experiance with CCP is that they pick their own solutions and they rely only on their own research. Im just the messenger here, it is up to people to come with good idea's to help CCP and discuss here possible solutions.

I just started the first 2 stages of a problem; Identification & analysation. Lets discuss possible solution here.

Granted, some change in moon mining stuff needs changing. Tech likely needs a nerf of one sort or the other, whether through redistribution or changing of the bill of materials on T2 production.

Until then, people who want those moons and the income can.. you know.. actually fight for them.