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Wow... nullsec is.. underwhelming.

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Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#21 - 2016-03-04 08:53:48 UTC
joined the wrong nullsec block my incognito friend.

Having a blast and racking up the kills and isk.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community

Chalkias Bosphorus
Cloak and Daggers
The Initiative.
#22 - 2016-03-04 11:32:46 UTC
There are %5 players in Null sec.
But all %5 want you to die.

That is the difference.
Commander Spurty
#23 - 2016-03-04 12:19:05 UTC
Chalkias Bosphorus wrote:
There are %5 players in Null sec.
But all %5 want you to die.

That is the difference.



Except when you're blue to 4% of them *SNORK*

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

DrugsDen
Asylum Misfits
Brave Collective
#24 - 2016-03-04 12:47:34 UTC
This game is so much more then crap pvp pvp is just a very small part of the game a lot of ppl dont even play eve for pvp
pvp is dead its 10 v 1 nowdays so a waste of time
Lee Maulerant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-03-04 13:01:28 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Lee Maulerant wrote:
Seriously, a HAC doesn't want to step up to a tier ONE frigate because I want a fight.

Maybe because a solo t1 frigate trying to agress a HAC just screams cyno bait?


It's a fair point, but nonetheless, he would've flattened me easily with 2-3 volleys even with an AB active, assuming he has the appropriate skills to pilot one, which I'm assuming he had since he was willing to lose it.

You know what they say, only fly what you can afford to lose. So there you go, I'm cheap.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#26 - 2016-03-04 14:05:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
WTF did I just read?

The real problem isn't null (I had a blast last night running plexes and killing a bunch of DARKNESS Hurricanes, and for once I didn't die), it's the preconceived notions of the OP (notions he spent not even on day trying to dispel). If one needs easy access to markets and instant gratification, why would you go to sov null?

Over the last 8 years I've tried numerous times to live in low sec. It just hasn't worked out, I'm fundamentally unsuited to that kind of game life. I can do wormholes, both types of null and high sec, but low just rubs me the wrong way. The difference between my experience and what the OP vomited here is that I understand that it's my temperament and preferences that are my issue with low, not that "low sec sucks" or some such. Plenty of people live in low sec and enjoy it.
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#27 - 2016-03-04 14:12:32 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
WTF did I just read?

The real problem isn't null (I had a blast last night running plexes and killing a bunch of DARKNESS Hurricanes, and for once I didn't die), it's the preconceived notions of the OP (notions he spent not even on day trying to dispel). If one needs easy access to markets and instant gratification, why would you go to sov null.

Over the last 8 years I've tried numerous times to live in low sec. It just hasn't worked out, I'm fundamentally unsuited to that kind of game life. I can do wormholes, both types of null and high sec, but low just rubs me the wrong way. The difference between my experience and what the OP vomited here is that I understand that it's my temperament and preferences that are my issue with low, not that "low sec sucks" or some such. Plenty of people live in low sec and enjoy it.



fair point. the problem ia with this game most of the time playing solo is boring when its pvp. mostly pvp is not for soloists its a team sport. ezploration mining missions are all solo pvp really isnt

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit

Forum Toon
Doomheim
#28 - 2016-03-04 16:31:30 UTC
some of you forget that you face 3 choices,
1. try to play with other people in a team, which fails miserably most of the times as people for some reason afraid to undock.
2. Try to solo, which might be boring due to game mechanics of jumping between giant systems and trying to find someone.
3. dock in the station and spin your ship.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2016-03-04 16:35:14 UTC
Forum Toon wrote:
I've joined with my main to one of the nullsec blocks and thought I'll have some good time have some action and basically I wanted to see how it is to be a part of player owned internet space empire.

In one word > boring.
In one long word > Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.

Just let's be honest here I won't specify names or any specific I'll just share my general experience.

In general the null plebeians lives in extremely boring space, it's mostly empty and except for 1-2 systems here and there in most systems there isn't a single living soul. As a result in order to meet someone and partake in proper shooting between space station one need to be prepared to jump loads of systems.

I overall in 24 hours since moved to my new null system jumped somewhere between 60 to 100 jumps just inside the null region.
It's sucks the life out of me.
In the few years I played eve I never had to jump so much.

At any rate all trade hubs are more expensive in margin of around 10-20% which is respectable but you can feel the lack of variety.
on the Jita\Amarr\Dixie line of trade hubs one can get anything he wants in competitive price. In null it's challenge to find something, one must trust in contracts set by your alliance.

At any rate seems most null dwellers are worst then high sec isoboxer miners. I never seen a "less" enthusiast group of players in my life.

I'll explain,
In the beginning I did highsec pve missions and such. My old corp used to make frigate and cruiser sized roams into low sec and we had some action then came back.
then I switch to mining and even then when pvp arrived at our doorstep we stood and fight.
Then I tried FW in lowsec and over there people actively went out and searched for fights, ones found each duel was to the death (as everyone carried points and webs etc...).

In null... oh it's painful.
everyone hides.
like bunch of scared puppies.

It started with fleet ops I've joined where I had to sit and look on boring ass titan parking maneuver. after 40 minutes fleet dispersed and I had to jump 15 systems back to my home base.
on the way inside allied space I've noticed a warp scram deployable and some hostiles on the area.
As I was alone I reported in intel channel and after 20 minutes no one came they just avoided the system.
I started shooting the warp scram until it almost pop'd and only then the owner had the dignity to come out and fight my glorious t1 frigate with his Dictor. seriously... fricking dictor vs t1 frig show some balls.

After taking the Pod Express back to the station I started scouting around while being in the "militia" fleet of that region I was in and while participating in intel channel.

Every turn of the way when we had eyes on enemies the Null dwellers just tailed and ran away.
It was disgraceful. I mean... it's a game. A pvp game.
the whole point is take ships and shoot other ships.

At any rate after 2 hours of that chicken mentality showed by the local dwellers I decided to take some heavy tanked ratting ship and sit in a plex and rat while I wait for decent fight... FINALLY! someone had the decency to fight and I was tackled in the plex.
While still in the "militia fleet" there were another 4-5 fleet members in same system with me + over 10 other pilots in the system.
Once I shared intel and told the fleet I got intruder on me and invited everyone to warp to my location in order to share the festivities.. what is the first thing they all did?

Docked.

The fricking cowherds docked and hide in the station.

Overall we had tonight 3 roaming gangs, fleet of stealth bombers and entire fleet of campers camping on the fricking base.. home station inside the home system of that alliance I joined to.

even then meager 10 pilots managed to subdue the flow of operations of gigantic thousands members corps which is member in alliance which hold significant area of space.

Then I ask on my corp chat wtf is going on and why my old mining corp had more balls then them,
Then I was told those roaming people just look for easy kills (dafuc easy kills mid capital system of a space empire) and they just dock and bore them to death until they will leave them alone.

you see,
those lovely null dwellers spend most of their time ratting in one of the 30-40 plexes spawning in their systems or eve... hold it... mining! in 5-10 alts mining fleets.

24 hours and over 60 jumps I didn't encounter any significant battle. everything was pure hide and seek, pure chicken **** tactics and in all truth... after watching the online videos of those "epic battles" and reading about how nullsec empires are awesome it's plain boring.
it's worse then highsec as in highsec you can actually get more proper fights while having access to proper trade hubs and access to more activities then in null.
Also I was extremely disappointed with that defeatist mentality of the local dwellers.

TL;DR
why highsec miners have bigger balls then nullsec dwellers?



Sorry you joined a bunch of bads. It happens, no denying it. But one group isn't the same as the whole of 0.0

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#30 - 2016-03-04 16:48:45 UTC
Null was underwhelming in my experience too. And the alliance I was in lacked a JF service. IMO We were the target audience for fozziesov.. Then they nerfed how many wormhole connections there were in null and it became way too tough to do anything out there.

@lunettelulu7

Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#31 - 2016-03-04 18:56:05 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Providence is basically highsec.


If I could pick one thing from this and make it true, I'd have to be making covert cynos legal in Hi Sec. Good-Bye Wardec Menace!

Lulu Lunette wrote:
Null was underwhelming in my experience too. And the alliance I was in lacked a JF service. IMO We were the target audience for fozziesov.. Then they nerfed how many wormhole connections there were in null and it became way too tough to do anything out there.


Have you looked at any Querious alliances? I personally do the logistics for my alliance. If you want to have fun in null, there either has to be an NPC station in the region or nearby, or freeports, otherwise the only fights you will ever really get involved with are another person's war, for their reasons.

Which again is the main problem with the nullsec design, at least the sov-null space design; space is either so remote and so safe that it is good for making money, but useless for anything else - all rats no fights, or so accessible and dangerous that it is useless for making money but great for battle. Basically to have fun in sov, you have to make your money where you don't live.

Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?

Demica Diaz
SE-1
#32 - 2016-03-04 19:09:00 UTC
Cool kids live in low sec, day trip in null sec and do their trade in high sec. Bear
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2016-03-04 19:30:57 UTC
Can we find out who OP joined?
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2016-03-04 19:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Can we find out who OP joined?


Nobody, I suppose. He just felt like ranting a bit.

Edit: Assuming he's not lying, he must have been with the Imperium. He's talking about 0.0 empires and corps with "thousands" of members. There aren't that many of those around these days that fit into both categories.

Probably Karmafleet, they recruit everybody.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#35 - 2016-03-04 19:58:43 UTC
DrugsDen wrote:
This game is so much more then crap pvp pvp is just a very small part of the game a lot of ppl dont even play eve for pvp
pvp is dead its 10 v 1 nowdays so a waste of time





Full stops or, indeed, any punctuation of any sort, are also apparently a waste of time these days.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2016-03-04 20:02:24 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Can we find out who OP joined?


Nobody, I suppose. He just felt like ranting a bit.

Edit: Assuming he's not lying, he must have been with the Imperium. He's talking about 0.0 empires and corps with "thousands" of members. There aren't that many of those around these days that fit into both categories.

Probably Karmafleet, they recruit everybody.


If it's Karmafleet, it means he was in north Dek which is pretty much empty so nobody really care to save ratters. For PvP, he should of went to the deployment area...
Ocean Ormand
Bagel and Lox
#37 - 2016-03-04 20:24:45 UTC
Lowsec is where it is at .
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#38 - 2016-03-04 20:31:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lulu Lunette
Vic Jefferson wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Have you looked at any Querious alliances?




Not Querious but close, Fountain. I've talked with a few recruiters from Querious before though.

I lasted about 19 hours, right click trashed the mining barge they gave me and quit corp.

They sounded good in their recruitment channel. Ugh

@lunettelulu7

Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#39 - 2016-03-04 21:47:16 UTC
Seems like OP should have done his research and joined a PvP alliance.
Forum Toon
Doomheim
#40 - 2016-03-04 21:53:09 UTC
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
Seems like OP should have done his research and joined a PvP alliance.


well they said they have pvp fleets and that I'll be able to join "militia" fleets which are coordinated on intel channel in order to defend the corp's space.

In truth after 4 hours that evening the only action I got... or let's say... the only interaction with another player which I've got was only when I got suicidal and went into great lengths in order to find someone to fight with.

The whole "moving to null" for me at list was to be part of something big, to join those big ass fleets and get the "I was there" vibe.

in truth I felt like I'm surrounded with pve'rs which cares nothing for good fight.

I think I might need to migrate into faction warfare maybe and see how's it going there this days.