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Again you show that you have no idea what you are talking about.

The next expansion is going to nerf wormhole income dramatically, while increasing the time required to run sites.

Compared to wormholes, HS incursions, low sec level 5 and null sec ratting will all yield more isk per hour post Citadel expansion...but they also get asset safety, less risk, less effort, lower investment in ships/fits and the PVE reward go straight into their wallets instead of it being 100% loot drops, like in WH space.

Seems well balanced huh?

Level 5 missions seem to be getting a fairly significant nerf in that all the people who do them in carriers will have massive problems keeping their fighters alive. Seriously, have you seen the aggro on new fighters? High-end nullsec ratting is also changing dramatically since carriers are changing a lot and HAW dreads, Phoenix in particular, will be viable for certain types of ratting.

Also, again the Level 5 meta will probably change a bit, but have you see the ship investment most of the people running those have? We're talking somewhere in the range of 5-6 carriers, so getting up there with the price of a C5 escalation squad. Granted, still a bit cheaper and a lot safer, and that's ideal, not absolutely required.

Well you can do them in battleships but most people who use that as a serious source of income use carriers and decline the gated missions.

Don't know if anyone is still monitoring this thread or if this has been mentioned before but when jump cloning from a NPC station where I already have a jump clone install the pop up box asking for 900,000 isk shows up. I click no; because I already have a clone and it cancels the jump. I click yes and it then asks if I want to destroy my installed clone. From memory that second part has always been a problem but I was hoping to avoid paying the 900,000.

This becomes more important when jumping from random NPC station back to my home citadel. I would suggest allowance to clone jump without leaving a clone.

I do recognize the other option is to kill my clone but that takes me back to my medical clone which may not be where I want to go.

Jumping up to 5% is just too much.

I'm in favour of reducing the 'power' of the station traders, but that much increase is a shock to the economy.

It will also be very rude to those traders who play the game without feverishly checking the forums for updates like this. I'm one of them, I just happened to stumble on this by chance.

If it's an attempt to 'encourage' market trade in citadels, it has already failed because people vast majority of won't want to to major trade in a destructible station. If it's an attempt to simply slow down the velocity of transactions and hypertrading, that could be accomplished with an increase to 3% or 4% which wouldn't be nearly as painful.

I'm in favour of giving to players/making for players to have meaningful and interesting choices, but this seems like an artificial suppressor.



Do you remember when the standing requirement for setting up a Starbase was removed, because grinding standings with NPC corp - achieved through missioning, which might not be related to your gameplay or your reason for setting up a starbase - seemed like an inappropriate barrier?

Now here we are, and they want to grossly increase the tax.. "but you can reduce some of the tax by grinding up standings with the NPC corp, so it's not so bad" ....

900k ISK jump clone fee for NPC stations? No thanks CCP. Totally killed my enthusiasm for returning and experiencing the "New" New Eden.

Is there any chance to get an overview of the citadel fees in the info window of a citadel? Kinda like the information on the taxrate in the customs office info?
Right now there is no easy way to determine the refining tax, the office rental fee or the clone fees.
The structure browser doesn't seem to show any of this either.
Not even the reprocessing window shows the percentage of the tax, just how much ISK you actually have to pay.
I have looked at this on the current SiSi build, ignore my message if this is already fixed on TQ.

I really do not like having to pay a fee, let alone a 900,000 isk fee to jump form one existing clone in a Player controlled station to another player controlled station. These are not NPC stations. I do not want to be charged a fee to jump from ANY station.

I am okay with a higher fee for installing clones, but NO FEE for using them.

I speak for all three of my accounts!

An oversized sense of entitlement?

So what would you propose the tax to install a jump clone be set to?

We used to pay a set amount for installing a clone, which worked fine until CCP decided to think up more ways to remove more isk from the game via npc taxes - It's a never ending cycle of, pay CCP to play the game we all pay a subscription to play.
CCP have never been able to get enough new players to offset the cost burden placed on existing players - And that is highly unlikely to change. Especially if CCP Arrogant is in charge of NPE..... So expect to keep paying, for everything you choose to do in game.

Reprocessing tax - I used to lose 1 or 2 million in minerals at reprocessing time - now it is 5 to 6 mil isk each time. Pay more for the same outcome - Is just so right isn't it....... Don't complain about 900k to use a jump clone when installing one could cost 5 mil, or more..