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The effect of taxes on markets is well documented in the RL economic literature -- arbitrary taxes which do not reflect underlying economic costs always have the effect of making markets LESS efficient to the detriment of participants.

What we should expect with this change is a significant widening of the spreads between buy and sell prices -- and a lot fewer player merchants moving goods from location A to location B to better serve the market in B.

I observe that this will have the likely effect of reducing availability of goods everywhere but the market hubs -- and quite possibly even in those hubs which are outside Jita.

Now, maybe your modeling of the flood of isk existing within EVE tells you that a large isk sink is needed -- and that a consumption tax [which is approximately what this is] is the way to bring this about. In the absence of of some underlying cost which the Citadel owner needs to recover [monthly operating cost to have a market at all??] I'd think the way to balance the excess isk problem is to reduce Concord bounties paid for ratting [esp in high sec] -- simply to put less isk into the game, rather than find a way to take isk out of the game.


--older than dirt. older than EVE, too.

The more I think about the tax changes, the less I like their direction. It moves the game towards more control in less hands, like in the real world. And the consequences in the real words are pretty bad for the non-elite.

Currently I can let the big boys play in null and do my own thing in high/low. I'd really really hate to be forced into space politics and big block shenanigans. Please think about why you want to do this, do you just want eve to be a more realistic, evil, grittier place, or do you really think this will improve gamplay as a whole? Just because a feature is cool and interesting and more sandboxy doesn't make it good for the game.

Don't you think 4.5% broker fee (6% with 25% discount from broker relation in NPC station) for each transaction in Citadel is too fat for the Citadel owners(i.e. only big alliances that are strong enough to protect it)?

If daily volume of one single market hub, for example, jita, is 300 billion, daily income of 4.5% broker fee will be 13.5 billion. And there are more than one market hub in the game. The broker fee market is huge. Is this too big a gift?

Bravo that's how to destroy a game.
First we have to pay 10% for producing an item.
And now another 8% to sell s......
wee 18% tax..... are you f.. stupid ???? or is it intentional to kill all Hs producing/market.

It's not a f... sandbox when you force people to null sec.....

Let this golden rule be enshrined somewhere, that it may be visible and shine it's light on the imaginations of the developers no matter where they be.

5 million isk every time you *use* a jump clone at an NPC station? That's 10 million if you happen to be jumping from one NPC station to another? When you already have the cost of a 24 hour timer?

Clearly you intend to force players into player corps/alliances and force them to use player owned structures for basic services.

Clearly you have not looked at the "unintended consequences." I'll be very narrow in my take on this:

This will make nullsec PVP even more the exclusive preserve of the big blue doughnut crowd. May as well put up a big, bright "Newbies not welcome" sign. It will probably also leave NPC null basically a deserted wasteland, as if it isn't non-viable enough already.

Maybe incentives work better than arbitrary punishments, no?

5m isk to jump to one of my "Clone Heads" is a bit of a stinker. Not the end of the world, but still a stinker. Now if you was to say make it 10m but there was no time limit to switch from one clone to the next. Then I would be very happy.

I myself don't care for having jump clones all over the place (but that is how there right now). But what I would love is for me to be able to say "hey I am going to fly my super fast Fed navy comet today, I think I would be a good idea to have my snake implants in my head". I then go out and have me some Pew Pew. Come home and say, "Humm I fancy me some Enyo fun, Maybe it's time to fly with some Slave implants". But I can't do that due to time limit on clone jumping. Sure we have all loved with that for a long time. But I really do think it would a deal winner for Citadels to have that "Bonus" selling point. Wormhole implant users will love you for ever and ever. Right now they can't even choose in a timely manner at all. They get no real chance to switch to what is needed if the invading force comes a knocking. Citadels would give them that if there was no time limit.

Anyway. That's my feedback

Hope it helps

I think the jump clone cost is too high (thinking starter PvP in lowsec).

The market fees are not high enough. I'd prefer more like 10%, otherwise the prices could just step up to compensate.

Contracts REALLY need to work for citadels before we will see any significant market shift. Maybe wait until this is ready before changing the broker fee.

Can you please clarify asset safety mechanics?

1. If a large citadel is destroyed in a highsec system with an NPC station does it still cost 10% to recover inventory? Or is transfer to an NPC station in the same system free?

2. If a large citadel is destroyed can you recover assets for no fee by building a medium in the same system? Or is it size-specific?

Can citadels be set for alliance use ?