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There are no insults or attacks in my posts.

The new set of features are aimed at creating more conflict, finally introducing a tangible amount of risk to profit generating activity of trading and increasing competition in the game.

Building, maintaining, and defending a citadel is not a passive deed. Quite the opposite, it is a resource intensive bidding. And no, nobody is getting robbed out of anything.

Any small group, or any solo player that is willing to get off a risk-free, legacy station and into a player owned, managed and defended building is looking to stay competitive and profitable.

Of course, if you somehow have a weird expectation of a XL Citadel realistically being maintained and defended by a solo player, that is a whole different story. Understanding 'operating a XL Citadel in Jita as the galaxy's trade hub' grade big enterprises are never meant to be for solo players and small players might be a good start.

Like I said, it's a backdoor isk sink increase. There is absolutely no way this is going to dislodge jita. Feel free to call me on this if Jita should die this year.

NPC stations are set to be considered legacy systems. There is no debate about that.

And you are grossly exaggerating when you claim that 'NPC STATIONS ARE GOING TO BE KILLED WITH THE PATCH'. No, they won't.

You haven't given any 'horizontal pull factor', as it is impossible. What you have been able to propose, along with other people in your camp who are acting out of an agenda of self-interest which aims to avoid risk taking, is just that citadels and legacy stations should have nearly-equal base taxes, which condones any citadel to just a in-group 'boutique, niche market' since people will simply choose to do business in the risk-free station instead.

Again, to reiterate: Citadels aren't perfectly safe as stations. They are destructible. They need resources to operate. In order for mass markets to transition to citadels, they need a clear edge over perfectly safe, risk-free, indestructible stations. This is why CCP has chosen to give risk-averse camp the stick.

Without it, you and the mass markets will be unwilling to change, shift to citadels and adapt. That's it.

Yeah, just what EVE needs, another OTEC.

Increasing basic taxes feels like a good idea as it should open the spread between buy and sell orders a bit. With the increase in transaction costs a bit of the pricing power should move from the resellers to the producers which I deem a good thing(tm).

I would suggest hiking the transaction tax most (as opposed to the broker fee) . Give Citadels a reduction on transaction tax (tax ISK still being an ISK sink), as well as the option to set their own broker fee (benefiting the Citadel owner).

What risk? They have 100% asset safety. Free. Because people refused to accept the possibility of asset loss (except the WH guys who pitched up and yelled "HIT ME!")

All that tells me is that the biggest advocate for Citadels in your alliance didn't know much about what he was advocating. The only thing that's new here is the figures they've added, we've known pretty much since the introduction of the concept of citadels that the long term goal was to shift as much as possible into player ownership. You're aware they hope to make stargates player owned one day too, right?

Lol? No they aren't. Like you say, eve is built on lies, deception, thieving, etc and right now you have the ability to use an NPC owned station so you know full well you won't be affected by any of that. All they are forcing you to do now is to make a choice between paying more to NPC to retain that certainty or pay players to do the same job for cheaper with a higher associated risk.

Woohoo! Can I have your stuff?

You say this, but I make nearly all of my isk trading. I trade mostly in the hubs but run a market hub in Solitude. If they removed AFK ratting without telling me and I didn't look at the rage on the forums it's probably take me 6 months to notice.

Don't know and don't particularly care. I'll likely be trading in places that benefit me the most, although with the amount I trade I'll likely be split across multiple markets as the risk of having to pay 10% for my entire asset value if I sunk it all into one citadel and it gets popped is something I'd rather avoid.

It can, but only if you're terrible and enter it in wrong. Any other system in the game where the only risk came from you pushing your buttons wrong would be raged against in an instant, so why should trading be any different? Increasing the fees increases the costs which in turn increases the risk of failing to predict market changes which is good, though there still needs to be more risk. Moving to citadels is a good thing as it ultimately puts 10% of the value of your goods inside it at risk if it gets destroyed.

Your examples would be random and non-specific losses, still perfectly safe and isolated from the rest of the political and military dynamics that affect the game. Therefore, it would be a small risk that you can easily mitigate and factor for all by yourself. Hence, it isn't an actual risk in the scale of what I'm talking about, as anyone who's doing things other than station trading can attest to. Sure, market PvP exists, but it simply is isolated from the rest of the game, and certainly not very meaningful.

Man, I wasn't going to reply, but "not an actual risk"?

Amazing, just amazing.

There will be no game left.

Simple. the "all rat in harmony" can't be enforced, since the solo guy can go and roam and kill ratters and stopping him would be too much effort. Protecting a citadel with a full fleet in reinforcement time is easier.

Sure there will be. A bunch of individuals without leadership and organization. That's great if you want to hunt ratters, not so great if you want to go for a fleet battle.

I like the increased fees. They drive off the casual traders and force little guys to don't even think about setting an order, but sell to my buys.

Of course there will be impact on you. Since the Imperium leadership will no longer need bottom-up income, just F1 pushers to protect the citadel, you'll be purged from SMA for being "useless carebear"