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What's with Dysprosium price?
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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-16 12:35:21 UTC
Dysprosium has spiked by more 50% over the last few days. Any idea why? I mean it consistently hovered around 10k for the past 6 months+ and now Jita price is suddenly 16.4k per unit.

If this is more than short term market manipulation, it is going to be leaving a mark... So T2 component producers:

Dysprosium is used in Ferrofluid and Dysporite, so this will also mean that Hypersynaptic Fibers and Ferrogel (which contain those intermediates) will be spiking in the very near future. I already bought a good stockpile of both for T2 manufacturing but those Jita stocks won't last long if Dysprosium prices stay up. Fermionic Condensates also use Dysprosium, but it is already fairly high in price and profitable even at current Dyspro price levels.

So, TLDR: Dysprosium spiked for no apparent reason, will cause Hypersynaptic Fibers and Ferrogel spike very soon.
Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#2 - 2011-12-16 15:45:19 UTC
TL;DR : GAIS BY UP WHAT OP SAID !
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-16 16:52:18 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:


So, TLDR: Dysprosium spiked for no apparent reason, will cause Hypersynaptic Fibers and Ferrogel spike very soon.


It's just the opposite: if Dyspo spikes for no reason, then there are no market forces supporting the prices and it will soon crash back to equilibrium.

I'm guessing it's simply market manipulation because of the amount of volume traded right before the spike. I also noticed that someone bought up all of what little dyspro was on the Amarr market and relisted a nice even number for an inflated price. We'll see what the weekend brings.
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#4 - 2011-12-17 06:30:29 UTC
This is probably a result of the impending tech moon nerf, and rebalance of R64 moon mats in T2 production. Very shortly all the R64 materials will be worth many times their current value. Goonswarm knows this, and is currently stockpiling, using their insider trading knowledge about the future path of the game.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#5 - 2011-12-17 07:08:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Jita Bloodtear wrote:
to be corrected below

This is probably a result of the impending tech moon nerf, and rebalance of R64 moon mats in T2 production. [citation needed]
Very shortly [citation needed] all the R64 materials will be worth many times their current value.

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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#6 - 2011-12-17 07:13:16 UTC
EVERYTHING IS A GOON CONSPIRACY

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-17 11:57:27 UTC
Jita Bloodtear wrote:
Goonswarm knows this, and is currently stockpiling, using their insider trading knowledge about the future path of the game.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

you're funny

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OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#8 - 2011-12-17 14:58:02 UTC
Yet another thread making Goons look like reasonable, rational people in contrast to the tinfoil hat crowd . . .
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2011-12-17 16:27:32 UTC
its me

i bought all of the dysprosium

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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#10 - 2011-12-17 17:50:10 UTC
Clearly an official disinformation campaign since Jita Bloodtear is a well-known goon alt and the goons have no interest in fixing T2. They're obviously bribing their CCP pets to move all roid mining into null sec and using this ploy to distract the otherwise vigilant MD forum.
Mantra Achura
Stammtisch
#11 - 2011-12-17 18:51:31 UTC
I remember that a half year ago CCP mentioned they will make some "rebalancing" regarding tech, but nothing specific is said so far. Rebalancing could mean a more "fair" distribution of tech moons and no changes at tech related reactions.
As long no specifics are released speculation makes no sense imo.

The last major patch didn't change anything regarding that matter and the next one will come within the next half year. Their's no reason to hurry...
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2011-12-17 18:56:40 UTC
Mantra Achura wrote:
I remember that a half year ago CCP mentioned they will make some "rebalancing" regarding tech, but nothing specific is said so far. Rebalancing could mean a more "fair" distribution of tech moons and no changes at tech related reactions.
As long no specifics are released speculation makes no sense imo.

The last major patch didn't change anything regarding that matter and the next one will come within the next half year. Their's no reason to hurry...

look at this weiner

speculation wouldn't be speculation with perfect info

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-12-17 19:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
Jita Bloodtear wrote:
This is probably a result of the impending tech moon nerf, and rebalance of R64 moon mats in T2 production. Very shortly all the R64 materials will be worth many times their current value. Goonswarm knows this, and is currently stockpiling, using their insider trading knowledge about the future path of the game.




oooohhhhhhh whats all this then?reading between the lines t2bpoo all over again? or just another csm that needs a kick in the nuts and booting off the panel?


csm should be like signing an NDA for alpha/betas and if you cant handle it don't take up the post.


missinformation is great when used right just need to know who to feed it to.
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#14 - 2011-12-17 20:41:49 UTC
Weaselior wrote:

look at this weiner

speculation wouldn't be speculation with perfect info


Heh, you also have to remember that CCP isn't really going to start gossiping about the next expansion until the Fanfest in late March. Sure, if cheaper moon goo happens then snap it up, but otherwise, your isk is probably better spent elsewhere till we get close to having real info released. I'd say that moon goo would be an interesting pre-Fanfest buy.

It's also worth noting that CCP might just increase supply a lot (they do tend to make precision adjustments with a 10 kg sledgehammer) in which case, it's not likely that any of the moon goos would go up.
Mantra Achura
Stammtisch
#15 - 2011-12-17 21:18:12 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Mantra Achura wrote:
I remember that a half year ago CCP mentioned they will make some "rebalancing" regarding tech, but nothing specific is said so far. Rebalancing could mean a more "fair" distribution of tech moons and no changes at tech related reactions.
As long no specifics are released speculation makes no sense imo.

The last major patch didn't change anything regarding that matter and the next one will come within the next half year. Their's no reason to hurry...

look at this weiner

speculation wouldn't be speculation with perfect info


At least an indication would be fine.

Speculation only makes sense if one can be sure to sell that stuff for a higher price to others jumping on the bandwagon later on. I've thought about buying dyspro several times in the past, but didn't find at least a single indication for a price increase in the future.

Nevertheless good luck!
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-12-18 15:49:55 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
Jita Bloodtear wrote:
This is probably a result of the impending tech moon nerf, and rebalance of R64 moon mats in T2 production. Very shortly all the R64 materials will be worth many times their current value. Goonswarm knows this, and is currently stockpiling, using their insider trading knowledge about the future path of the game.


oooohhhhhhh whats all this then?reading between the lines t2bpoo all over again? or just another csm that needs a kick in the nuts and booting off the panel?

csm should be like signing an NDA for alpha/betas and if you cant handle it don't take up the post.


Confirming the CSM members don't already have NDAs

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Xuzi
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-12-19 01:55:31 UTC
Goons Goons Goons! Marsha Marsha Marsha!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-19 02:02:34 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
oooohhhhhhh whats all this then?reading between the lines t2bpoo all over again? or just another csm that needs a kick in the nuts and booting off the panel?

Or just another crackpot frantically posting on the internet.

fuer0n wrote:
csm should be like signing an NDA for alpha/betas and if you cant handle it don't take up the post.

You really haven't been paying attention since the CSM was created, have you?

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Cal Chet
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-20 05:32:59 UTC
Looks to me like none of the Dysprosium buy orders have been fulfilled for a few days now, and the sell orders are currently too high to tempt any but the most desperate. Further, the small amounts and micro-management in the sell orders makes me wonder whether they're the speculators and not the cartel - in which case the latter might conceivably be trying their hand at some market manipulation.

A few days doesn't tell us anything really, but if this is what's going on, CCP might finally get a demonstration on why Alchemy can't fulfil the purpose for which it was designed.
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#20 - 2011-12-20 06:48:29 UTC
Maybe someone got a whiff of a Moongoo nerf/buff/redistribution?

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