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Open petition against EVElopedia closure
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Dori Tos
Doomheim
#121 - 2016-03-09 20:20:05 UTC
Signed.

Not only is it bad to rely solely on third party websites to provide information for your game, the said websites also don't have all the information that was contained within the EVE wiki. Now leaving a lot of info on the game pretty much unavailable.

I'm delicious.
Astenia Riraille
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2016-03-10 12:51:46 UTC
Signed
olegez
R Strike
#123 - 2016-03-10 14:38:21 UTC
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
#124 - 2016-03-10 16:14:27 UTC
Signed
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#125 - 2016-03-10 16:55:55 UTC
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
From what the guy says in this thread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=471658&find=unread post #13


It sounds like the lore will still be accessible.


So your petition is pointless.




The person referred to is, unfortunately, not official CCP, nor does he provide a link to a reliable CCP post.

Petitions like this are VERY useful, IF CCP is paying any attention to their playerbase.

Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#126 - 2016-03-10 16:57:07 UTC
And signed.


Lore is important for world building.
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2016-03-11 09:53:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Natya Mebelle
I agree. Evelopia should live. And it should still provide the barebone game knowledge as it were, and featured in the game itself, as it was pre-opportunity age. But it also needs more tender care. So who will care for it? Isn't that what we have the ISDs for as well? ISD Mercury is I think the part that also shepherds the lore, so at least they will have a significant impact on it.

THere are too many third party knowledgebases tout there, and part of them are
a) outdated
b) too wordy
c) biased
d) Parts or all of the above.

I'd like to keep an unbiased, up-to-date and short source for eve, and evelopia has to be that. Because it's official.

The more CCP outsources their game, the worse it gets.

EDIT: As a prime example; how am I going to discuss ship crews now with people if I cannot reference to the original document any more?
Yuri Ovechkin
Doomheim
#128 - 2016-03-11 11:01:11 UTC
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

i'm just posting that link, simply wondering why there seems to be no eve wiki on their site... why doesn't someone start it up, gamepedia is the official site for so many games, why not band wagon and join the club

and of course there's

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

for now...
REE POMANIUS
Heaven's Harvesters
#129 - 2016-03-11 21:19:54 UTC
Signed.
Sildriel en Chalune
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#130 - 2016-03-12 03:42:24 UTC
The EVElopedia was the best source of information regarding DED sites. Signed.
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2016-03-12 10:39:06 UTC
I think we should salvage things before it is too late. Because I get the feeling that CCP will not even bring back the lore-portion of the wiki.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page

http://web.archive.org/web/20160119152537/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#132 - 2016-03-13 20:11:22 UTC
Natya Mebelle wrote:
I think we should salvage things before it is too late. Because I get the feeling that CCP will not even bring back the lore-portion of the wiki.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page

http://web.archive.org/web/20160119152537/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page

I agree 100%.

Even though you're a little bit late with the link, it's definitely good to see I'm not the only one who uses the Wayback Machine.

Big smile



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2016-03-13 21:13:28 UTC
Signed. Was my go-to for info on PvE sites of all types plus other info...there does not seem to be any comparable resource so I'm now reduced to guesswork and memory.

Evelopedia was a critical resource and I don't understand why it was shuttered.
Otto3d
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#134 - 2016-03-16 03:07:02 UTC
Signed.

EVElopedia < add this to your sig to show u WANT it back
Galaxxis
The Regency
The Monarchy
#135 - 2016-03-16 04:50:29 UTC
EVElopedia was super useful! Even though some stuff there was out of date, there was tons of good information. Please bring it back!
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#136 - 2016-03-18 08:39:14 UTC
Surprisely this thread is still here.

Evelopedia via Wayback Machine
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#137 - 2016-03-22 22:06:36 UTC
It is, but someone said that CCP was putting the information in a new place rather than just deleting it and letting 3rd parties do what they may?
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#138 - 2016-03-23 09:05:54 UTC
I knew, given time, this thread would grow to rival EVE-lo-peedia...
Instead of building a threadnaught, why not build another informational site?
No. WAIT! You want someone ELSE to do it! I GET IT!

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#139 - 2016-03-23 11:14:07 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:


1. 3rd-party wikias lack on information about New Eden's lore and history.



So add it, thats the point of a wiki

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2. EVElopedia was directly accessable from Help menu and popular among new pilots.


Until they realised it was rarely ever updated and showed stats from patches released a decade ago?

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3. EVElopedia was an official resource. 3rd-party wikias may be closed by their owners anytime, access to 'em may be limited, and it's content may not be trusted.


Well even official ones can be pulled so it being "official" or "3rd party" doesn't change that fact


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What now?


Well you could start your own that wont disappear randomly overnight, domains are cheap and hosting isn't the most expensive thing in the world

Quote:
If someone have enough time and effort, he may be able to make a mirror-site for EVElopedia and community may ask CCP for full EVElopedia dump - if it was not destroyed already.


To be fair you're probably better off just using the SDE and coding something from the ground up, the issue with evelopedia is the pages were static, they had to be manually updated whereas using the SDE all you do is update the database and bam your "wiki" is already up to date with ship stats, item names and more :P
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#140 - 2016-03-24 11:07:07 UTC
My husband still plays Eve and on the launcher got a notice saying free 10 days if people who quit before february come back.

I came back to find out they deleted Evelopedia with no notice, a site I used everyday when I was playing as a yearling newbie. Also the roleplaying community completely decimated, from the capital of Providence to Amarr Prime. I am not sure what they think I want to come back to. Evelopedia was a great roleplaying resource, with entertaining player biographies. It was not perfect but they were very unresponsive to volunteers.

I volunteered to help update evelopedia last summer when they put out a call but never got a reply back.

If they want the players to keep websites up to date why not give them evelopedia for starters, instead of deleting it?

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