EVE General Discussion

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The other day, I was running some COSMOS mission and there was some interesting dialogue and items from a previous and ancient civilization called the Yan Jung. I read about them in Evelopedia, there wasn't much but it was something and just enough for that 'empty canvas and paint' so I could go and make a blog post or whatever. (Since we are the lore, right)

A quick Google and there is no where that has general information on the Yan Jung civilization. I could create the page on Uniwiki sure; after I trust them with my in game browser. Not that I don't trust Eve University to my information, but Evelopedia was a truly neutral place.

Lore was hard enough to find out about before.

With no game manuals, it is incumbent upon CCP to have an in game link to the RULES that govern the Eve universe. Lore, fittings guides etc. might be handled well by 3rd party sites. But CCP is obliged to provide players with the official rules. Imagine a pirate or goon site giving you the "official" rules of engagement.

All of the current information on the Eve wiki was dumped and can be downloaded from the news article. Community sites are already up which host the data contained in the dump:

https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/evelopedia/index.php/Main_Page

I can't sign on against the closure of something that I felt had limited use in its current form. I might sign on against the timing of it, I think it still has use and its replacement(s) aren't fully functional yet. Closing something before it's truly redundant isn't the smartest thing to do unless there is another serious set of pressures driving it.

Newbie help, in so far as getting to know the basic concepts and working the game properly, should be IN-GAME as far as I'm concerned. I haven't seen this in-game help enough other than to start up a new toon and at that point it's really not done well.

What the game needs for help is actual video, either animated or live action (which would be fun to get some fans together and shoot with some props and such), that goes over the various concepts and forces you into simulations that show how things work. The game is super complex and the videos only need to cover the basics, but that's what it should have. I've seen some of the stuff they are doing now and it's not as far along as I'd have hoped.

The videos can be supplemented by an official library reference that details exactly how to do all the functions of the game but leaves the theory-crafting out of it (which can be confusing to a beginner as they don't understand the ramifications of it) which most 3rd party libraries include. Cross linking stable 3rd party resources is also a good idea for those that are ready to dive into theory-crafting.

So, I can see why CCP is dropping the resource, just not happy with the timing. The replacement needs to be fully operational first.

i was thinking about hosting it so ill try do it i have a eve site im working on so it should fit in. ive downloaded the database so watch this space.

When you say 'obliged' do you actually mean "I want them too"?

Because I'm not aware of any such obligation, and CCP have never done so in the past.

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I can't fathom why such a resource would be shut down to begin with...

Just can't believe it. It's a base of New Eden. Are you joking? To say that it's biggest step down it's to say nothing. This is the final destruction of the universe we knew.

Oh joy! Another internet petition! I so love these! They're testimonies to how delusional people can actually be!!

PS This isn't a signature!

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In such a complex game it's really CCP's responsibility to provide documentation and not an unpaid third party's.