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NPC Combat Fleets

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Jacquerel Norsou Ja'kil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-03-01 04:40:05 UTC
I got this idea while reading up on some lore.
Im enamored by the visuals of videos depicting massive battles between the Empires and Capsuleer alliances, so I thought, why not have events similar to incursions but with the event location being the battleground between Empire NPC fleets that capsuleers can profit from via salvaging or joining combat with the empire that owns the militia you are in if you are in FW.
IE Gallente fleet of NPC ships in a cohesive form against the Caldari Navy NPC fleet, like they showed in the Inferno expansion trailer and capsuleers could join the battle and profit from it
Of course, seeing as how CONCORD controls the peace between the empires alongside shaky diplomacy, some new lore event might cause all that to change and bring back to New Eden with the Empires assaulting eachother to the brink of war.

Any thoughts, anyone?
Also keep in mind, while we might need this to make sense since we cant just have the empires navies go to total war with no trigger, I just want to focus on the mechanics and possibility of NPC fleet battles in space.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2016-03-01 05:20:57 UTC
Sounds like a isk faucet to me...
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-03-01 07:59:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dolorous Tremmens
Get some friends, go to nullsec. better yet, join a small corp in a big alliance with friends and get that ti-di feeling of awesomeness that results from such huge battles.

The hamsters are usually forcefed angel dust during one of these battles involving REAL people. Involve AI and you're asking for even more trouble or as the person above me noted, isk faucet, as each ship would act the same way or in formation( so really, just the same way). you'll have to have human interaction if you want the big battles, and recently they have happened in areas more accessable to the risk adverse(highsec dwellers).

In one of many fights that happen in navula Highsec people were jumping in to take potshots at anyone they could, because nullsec=bad guys.

In a real battle, even the SRP'd people are thinking of their own skins(killboards) and their own lossess(even with hefty SRP programs in place). Those big, huge battles also don't happen every day, and if they did it would devalue the ones that do happen. Do you have any concept of the amount of preparation it takes for one of those battles to happen. They seem to happen spur of the momment but it takes many many people incredible amounts of time and organization to get pieces into place in order to fight, and that is only if both sides commit, and then "escalate" further into mind blowing, isk sucking black hole of destruction.

Small things lead to bigger things, and if you watch all the eve trailers, you'll see that they (CCP) stress the individual as a piece of the whole living organization and the organization of the individuals as the thing that generates the real content, and sucks up the work of thousands of people. that Sucking is what the economy of eve is all about.

tl;dr, you wantbig battles, get friends, together with more friends, go to null, and suck like everyone else.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.

Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-03-01 08:49:41 UTC
Jacquerel Norsou Ja'kil wrote:
I got this idea while reading up on some lore.
Im enamored by the visuals of videos depicting massive battles between the Empires and Capsuleer alliances, so I thought, why not have events similar to incursions but with the event location being the battleground between Empire NPC fleets that capsuleers can profit from via salvaging or joining combat with the empire that owns the militia you are in if you are in FW.
IE Gallente fleet of NPC ships in a cohesive form against the Caldari Navy NPC fleet, like they showed in the Inferno expansion trailer and capsuleers could join the battle and profit from it
Of course, seeing as how CONCORD controls the peace between the empires alongside shaky diplomacy, some new lore event might cause all that to change and bring back to New Eden with the Empires assaulting eachother to the brink of war.

Any thoughts, anyone?
Also keep in mind, while we might need this to make sense since we cant just have the empires navies go to total war with no trigger, I just want to focus on the mechanics and possibility of NPC fleet battles in space.


Go to nullsec if you want big empires fighting over space.

-1
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#5 - 2016-03-01 10:36:28 UTC
The flip side of this is that if CCP could throw and event or two that engages the HS community it may generate some interest. The LS and null events have proven to be not good because of overwhelming forces being involved.

Also, there aren't any big fights in null over anything. Telling someone to go to null for big fights is ridiculous at this point in eve. The introduction of citadels had a chance at sparking some meaningful pvp in null, but I betting the space magic thing will render the new stations mostly meaningless. There really isn't anything to gain or destroy other than the structure itself.

CCPs pandering to the global blueness of null has pretty much left sov null warfare as dead for roughly 5 years. They aren't getting it, so perhaps the OP has a valid idea to generate some interest in HS.

Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2016-03-01 12:42:03 UTC
This was already talked about as a way to add life (empire navy fleets patrolling systems and occasionally interacting)
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#7 - 2016-03-01 13:49:10 UTC
I got a solution for a massive NPC fleet for ya, get a level 4 Blockade and shoot only the triggers.

VoilĂ  massive NPC fleet.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#8 - 2016-03-01 14:05:39 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
I got a solution for a massive NPC fleet for ya, get a level 4 Blockade and shoot only the triggers.

VoilĂ  massive NPC fleet.


nah send him to a c5 escalate it and shoot the triggers