EVE General Discussion

Incorrect on just about every single level.

CCP provides you, the player, the option to buy an item that can be spawned into existence within the game world.
By technical definition buying a plex is just CCP providing the service of creating you, the player, one plex within the game world.
The plex itself has no cash value. It cannot be resold as cash. It cannot be traded back as cash except as a refund with CCP.
A plex never has physical legal value. It actually doesn't have virtual value either as its pricing is decided on economic conditions within the games simulation. A simulation which has no interactions with the global economy.

Your ability to purchase an item in a game with time spent is completely and utterly irrelevant to the cost CCP charges to spawn that item.

Additionally your argument is fundamentally flawed by the fact that you are assuming a global situation with all players vs your own abilities. You would have to prove that the standard player could acquire 1 plex with time spent in 6hrs. This really isnt even remotely possible for the average EVE player. Also consider that with your assumption you failed to factor in 1 plex for all active players. As this would be a massive blow to the economy within the game the value would shift drastically. In no way shape or form can you actually logically use this argument as there is not 1 plex per player. Valuation is valuation. 1b isk for all eve players for 6hrs of downtime is not remotely possible because of the limitations of the market and volume of plex.

Plex has no real world value. Its a generated in game item. You pay for the service of its creation.

Odd, I have to pay $$$ or ISK to buy a PLEX.

CCP sets a "real world cash value" for a PLEX. I'm not sure how you can see that as false.....

Look, just go to CCP's store and you can easily see a PLEX has a Real World dollar value.


Lemme try and make this simple, if I have to pay $10 for something...it is worth $10.

Then instead of arguing with us forum warriors, go get yourself an IRL Lawyer and tell them how CCP cheated you out of 15USD and you want to sue them for the value you lost. Oh, and don't forget to add the 12.5 cents per account you lost too.

Please post updates to tell us all how this goes. I have LOTS of popcorn here...

Another of my corpmates and I are both still having issues logging in even though the servers are back up.

This is the error I'm getting: https://imgur.com/QU5CEZb

I rebooted my computer/restarted the launcher/etc.

This is the second time in a couple of days where CCP has cost me several hundered million in isk with the possibility of billions. I demand a refund. SP, isk, or something. There is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't give back to the players for something you guys messed up! Enough said.

Whats going to happen to all the people that needed to fuel thier pos where thier super caps are ?
And pay Sov bills to keep sov ?

Are all assets protected as a few people can log in and others cant ? what if I cant log in and fuel something and I lose my supercap ? will CCP replace the ship and billon + isk in fittings ?

What if the sky falls or the earth opens up under your feet. I can understand being upset, but don't go wildly speculating. If, however, you have a specific issue, like I did earlier, then complain. Mine was resolved correctly, there was some sort of server rollback, didn't lose anything - just had to run the escalation a second time. I can live with that. I would like an explanation on why it happened, as well as some sort of token of good will. It shouldn't be a plex, but hey 50k SP like they've done historically per active acct wouldn't be unreasonable.

As long as I didn't actually *lose* anything other than a small amount of game time, I'm good.

ZOMG Whinge whinge F#%ing whinge !!!

Yes the servers are messed up atm , yes it sucks you cant log onto eve atm. It might be a good time to go shower and clean ya room or even do some real life social stuff, even get outside and mow ya grass and get a sun tan for crying out loud.

Crying about internet spaceships is quite hilarious actually and I'm only speaking up because I'm out of popcorn.

But seriously if ya don't like it or cant handle the heat ... GET OUT OF The Kitchen!!!!!!!!....

Please CCP can we have a update on how things are travelling with the issues?

And to those worried about super caps and Pos fuels I'm sure CCP will re-emburse your loses and if you ask nicely may even take them off the KB's if necessary.

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Lemme make this even simpler for you.

If you buy a car for $50k, I guarantee you that you won't be reselling it for $50K.

If you buy a shirt worth $20 from one store, you cannot then take that shirt use it to pay for $20 worth of groceries at another store. Hell, you won't even be able to buy 5c worth of groceries with it.

Value doesn't work like you seem to think it does here. Likewise, once you purchase a PLEX, it's no longer worth what you handed over for it. It never has been, and never will be. CCP doesn't set a real world cash value for PLEX, they set a buy price, which is what you pay, but there is no sell price in real world cash. Because if you read the conditions of a PLEX purchase, it explains in no uncertain terms that it is non-refundable and not redeemable for cash. That's how it IS, not how you want it to be but how it is.

Common are you serious!? I just jumped in a site with my vni then it sayed disconnected on arrival... now I cannot login...if my ship is lost I want a new one....