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Foolproof method to prevent the suicide gank
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Serene Repose
#1 - 2011-12-16 09:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
After giving this a lot of intelligent consideration, I finally decided the FOOL proof way to avoid suicide ganks is....

...to not play at all.

When I log, I sort through all my valuables, look admiringly at my wallet balance, queue up some training...get frustrated at how LONG that takes...march myself around my quarters a while, drag my ships into the hangar to admire them, then I log off.

Since management is firmly planted in the "Let the Sociopaths Rule" position (sort of bent over...hands on knees...pants down...you know the drill)...it's FOOLISH to play Russian Roulette (sorry all you Rooskies out there) with your hard-earned assets on an endless merry-go-round of replacing ships you can afford to lose.

Now, I know that may not make sense to some of you out there. That's okay. It does make sense to a lot more of us than you might think, and for obvious reasons...which (of course) are lost on a LOT of people who think they're pretty smart.

Cool

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Vyl Vit
#2 - 2011-12-16 09:08:05 UTC
I find you rather difficult to believe sometimes. However, your sentence structure is nothing short of admirable.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Sturmwolke
#3 - 2011-12-16 09:11:42 UTC
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?
Serene Repose
#4 - 2011-12-16 09:15:29 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?

Oddly enough (correct me if I'm wrong) there are legal ramifications to scamming people IRL. Having a vibrant legal system affords protection enough to make it safe to sally forth and raise a little hell out of doors. I daresay, should someone suicide gank you, they would be convicted of murder posthumously and all their possessions would be forfeit to the gankee's family so they can afford the funeral.

I'm surprised you didn't think of that before you posted what you did...or was I?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Jita Alt666
#5 - 2011-12-16 09:26:14 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?

Oddly enough (correct me if I'm wrong) there are legal ramifications to scamming people IRL. Having a vibrant legal system affords protection enough to make it safe to sally forth and raise a little hell out of doors. I daresay, should someone suicide gank you, they would be convicted of murder posthumously and all their possessions would be forfeit to the gankee's family so they can afford the funeral.

I'm surprised you didn't think of that before you posted what you did...or was I?


Real life scammers ensure the law works in their favour. Sub Prime Lending?
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2011-12-16 09:39:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Serene Repose wrote:
After giving this a lot of intelligent consideration, I finally decided the FOOL proof way to avoid suicide ganks is....

...to not play at all.

When I log, I sort through all my valuables, look admiringly at my wallet balance, queue up some training...get frustrated at how LONG that takes...march myself around my quarters a while, drag my ships into the hangar to admire them, then I log off.

Since management is firmly planted in the "Let the Sociopaths Rule" position (sort of bent over...hands on knees...pants down...you know the drill)...it's FOOLISH to play Russian Roulette (sorry all you Rooskies out there) with your hard-earned assets on an endless merry-go-round of replacing ships you can afford to lose.

Now, I know that may not make sense to some of you out there. That's okay. It does make sense to a lot more of us than you might think, and for obvious reasons...which (of course) are lost on a LOT of people who think they're pretty smart.

Cool



Interesting, you obviously met far more gankers than I ever have in HiSec.

The two years I was living in HiSec on this account I can remember only one successfully gank (Hulkageddon 3 in a 0.5 system, never mine drunk its bad for your reaction time) and two fail attempts. I've had maybe five or six missions ninja salvaged out from under me the entire time I've played EvE but to read your post you would believe every HiSec gate was littered with the wrecks of the innocent 23.5 / 7.

In my experience on more than one account ganking and assorted griefing just doesn't happen anywhere as much as you make out, if it did the rather nice living I make with my HiSec trade and industry alts would be have been impossible over the last few years and the HiSec markets would be deserts.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#7 - 2011-12-16 09:48:54 UTC
I too refuse to play any game that I can't be sure I will always win. Expecting me to learn to play better and improve my skills merely in order to increase my chances is clearly some kind of infringement of my rights as a human, a man, a westerner and a whiny spoilt little brat.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-12-16 09:52:52 UTC
There is an other foolproof way to evade suicide ganks: self destruct as soon as the ganker locks you. Works every time.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2011-12-16 09:56:15 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
After giving this a lot of intelligent consideration, I finally decided the FOOL proof way to avoid suicide ganks is....

...to not play at all.


I doubt that.

Because I wish this newly profound revelation of yours also meant that you would stop posting hyperbolic nonsense like this. Or post at all.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Freezehunter
#10 - 2011-12-16 09:56:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?


You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things.

Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot.

Same for Eve.

In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.

All it takes is some ******* precaution.

CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.

Eve Police FTW!

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#11 - 2011-12-16 09:59:28 UTC
This again?

95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
#12 - 2011-12-16 09:59:40 UTC
I tend to agree with OP…

Eve in its current state clearly favors 'bad' behaviours, because the punitions are too light (security status, come on Roll)

The removal of insurance for ships destroyed by Concord was a step in the right direction, but it's not enough.
There should be a penalty system, when you suicide gank someone, you have to pay an additional fine too.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2011-12-16 10:01:22 UTC
Freezehunter wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?


You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things.

Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot.

Same for Eve.

In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.

All it takes is some ******* precaution.

CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.

Eve Police FTW!


Personally I'd like an expansion where I, as a player, can permanently remove players from the game by killing them in the game.

It is time to cull the weak. Let them by devoured by the strong.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Serene Repose
#14 - 2011-12-16 10:05:31 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?


You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things.

Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot.

Same for Eve.

In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.

All it takes is some ******* precaution.

CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.

Eve Police FTW!


Personally I'd like an expansion where I, as a player, can permanently remove players from the game by killing them in the game.

It is time to cull the weak. Let them by devoured by the strong.

Then, let's begin with you.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2011-12-16 10:10:20 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?


You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things.

Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot.

Same for Eve.

In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.

All it takes is some ******* precaution.

CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.

Eve Police FTW!


Personally I'd like an expansion where I, as a player, can permanently remove players from the game by killing them in the game.

It is time to cull the weak. Let them by devoured by the strong.

Then, let's begin with you.


I welcome that.

And how are you going to do that when you don't play the game? You sit in a station, look at your valuables, check your wallet, queue up training before you scurry offline in sheer fright of the game.

Podding me would require you to undock.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Serene Repose
#16 - 2011-12-16 10:13:49 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Fool proof way of not getting scammed or ganked in RL is ...
... to just not live at all.

Don't you agree?


You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things.

Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot.

Same for Eve.

In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.

All it takes is some ******* precaution.

CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.

Eve Police FTW!


Personally I'd like an expansion where I, as a player, can permanently remove players from the game by killing them in the game.

It is time to cull the weak. Let them by devoured by the strong.

Then, let's begin with you.


I welcome that.

And how are you going to do that when you don't play the game? You sit in a station, look at your valuables, check your wallet, queue up training before you scurry offline in sheer fright of the game.

Podding me would require you to undock.

Not when you pod yourself so well.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
#17 - 2011-12-16 10:15:20 UTC
As I am not a ganker I wonder if ganking is still lucrative since the latest patch? Not getting your insurance when killed by Concord should be quite a nerf to them.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-12-16 10:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Freezehunter wrote:
You forgot that IRL, the law actually works, and you are somewhat protected against these things.
Why do people always come up with this.

Laws do not protect anybody, they only punish people.
No law in the world can keep anybody from doing anything, if he really wants to do it.

That's why making stricter and stricter laws is a stupidity on it's own, too.


Quote:
Besides, you can't get scammed IRL if you are not a gullible idiot.
In 5 years of playing this game, I've never been scammed or suicide ganked.
Bullshit. Everybody can and will get scammed and saying you never got scammed makes you look like a liar.


Quote:
CCP should make an expansion that allows Eve players to be a part of Concord, and run around chasing criminals.

Eve Police FTW!
Well, hopefully yes, but without you.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2011-12-16 10:18:21 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:


Not when you pod yourself so well.


Now, that doesn't make sense. Even on a incoherent level.

I guess the intelligent flare of yours that you mentioned in your original post has dimmed substantially.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#20 - 2011-12-16 10:21:53 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
After giving this a lot of intelligent consideration, I finally decided the FOOL proof way to avoid suicide ganks is....

...to not play at all.

When I log, I sort through all my valuables, look admiringly at my wallet balance, queue up some training...get frustrated at how LONG that takes...march myself around my quarters a while, drag my ships into the hangar to admire them, then I log off.

Since management is firmly planted in the "Let the Sociopaths Rule" position (sort of bent over...hands on knees...pants down...you know the drill)...it's FOOLISH to play Russian Roulette (sorry all you Rooskies out there) with your hard-earned assets on an endless merry-go-round of replacing ships you can afford to lose.

Now, I know that may not make sense to some of you out there. That's okay. It does make sense to a lot more of us than you might think, and for obvious reasons...which (of course) are lost on a LOT of people who think they're pretty smart.

Cool


I can haz ur stuffs?

Ni.
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