Crime & Punishment

He didn't get the memo XD

gib moar salt pubbie nitshe, I enjoy your constant following
you can't seem to let go of my wonderful self,
maybe you should go out, take a breather, and realise that your existence is only because of CODE. and their associates

This sounds completely unbalanced and should be fixed. Just saying

Nitshe is only good for the plentiful tears he gives us on the forums...
If only he were relevant

Excellent observations from a seasoned AG. I notice you like the Svipul to gain Codie tears, what draws you to this ship to hunt gankers?

.. and thank you for trying to distract from what the topic is about.

Erm, no? It is about boney's meltdown (and some additional info on getting intel).
Didn't you said goonie doesn't equal code ("code > goons" more precisely) and now you say this topic is about code.
Are you suggesting that goonies=code? Make up your mind.

If I remember AG'S saying:
"All CODE. are goons and all goons are CODE."
:)
Besides I'm pretty certain you care not about my opinion

Lol ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you meant to say game mechanics Salty One

Because suicide ganking is not on CCP's official exploit list

So the wreck HP thing was addressed. I said myself it's odd that they all had the same HP and it made as much sense as insurance payouts for criminal acts (also fixed some time ago).

Still, it was goons first to complain and look how fast it got fixed when they started complaining compared to years and years of insurance for criminal acts.

We know what side of the toast the butter is. No surprise there, but it does answer to logic in the end.

I will still get a lot of hurf and blurf over how CCP coddles carebears and all that when what goons want, they always get. But that seesaw is not a new thing: giving goons what they want without killing the game. That's why highsec is so "buffed".


Wreck shooting was never popular with AG. I should know, I was a proponent of it. After some time, the reasons became obvious.

- One of the concerns of AG was that freighter ganks were a "goon project" for highsec market dominance but as the loot that does survive ended up back on the market, this assumption proved to be incorrect. The gank victims themselves were so rich with ISK they already factored in loss so they shrug and move on. A lot of AG participants are alts (or mains) or players involved in industry saw the total loss of the loot, not coming to market eventually, as making things worse.
- There are a lot of people in AG adhering to a kind of "white knightery" (I refer NOT to the fedora-wearing sort in RL) thus blowing up somebody else's property was a bit frowned upon. Other players didn't see a long term value in it, or found it against the grain of the concept of "AG". They wanted to prevent ganks, not put a cherry on it.
- Popping a wreck might have been good for peeing in the beer of a ganker or two, but if there is one thing remarkable about AG or even a general non-ganker type of player, it's that they have little interest in "griefing the greifer".


Thus pushing the concept of wreck ganking never went over well. Sure it was fun to see goon/CODE. smacktalk in local that usually occurs after a gank come to a sudden stop when their wreck popped (almost as satisfying as sneaking up on other players in an FPS and hitting them with a rifle butt), but most of the AG (or what could be said, what draws some players to AG) didn't see a point nor success to that in the long term.

For me at least, I need no longer have to push wreck popping in threads like this.

It was fun while it lasted.