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Watchlist will only show online status if pilots add each other #EVENT
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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2016-02-21 05:48:49 UTC
I look forward to the buff what will compensate for this nerf, perhaps another bonus to freighter ehp would even things out?

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Valkin Mordirc
#62 - 2016-02-21 07:09:17 UTC
On a wardeccers side,


Locator agents will need to be buffed. I personally don't want to roam aimless around trying to find where a war target is holed up. I that was my only option I would just move to lowsec.

Locators currently will tell you where a pilot is logged off at. This needs to change. Locators need to tell you if the pilot is logged on before running the actual locate. 

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#63 - 2016-02-21 09:39:54 UTC
The Good:
Wartargets won't know if you are online or not. Possible hilarity may then ensue.

The Bad:
You won't know how many wartargets are online at any given time. Possible hilarity may then ensue.

The Ugly:
Unintended consequences are unintended, and there is probably going to be several.

*sigh*

*shrugs shoulders*

Here we go again kids.

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Cixi
#64 - 2016-02-21 09:42:08 UTC
I know a lot of traders use watchlist to know when to undercut people, I do

But at the same time I won't be undercut when I log my known alts

so... 50/50
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2016-02-21 09:44:43 UTC
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2016-02-21 09:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: lilol' me
great for cap pilotst. be interesting to see how this afffects rekking crew.

but tbh i used it just when i needed to contact people and not have to.constantly keep trying to convo so a bit of a loss there it was a good feature for that, but im sure ill cope

whikst your at it can we have another colour that represents AFK status we can set.
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#67 - 2016-02-21 09:47:53 UTC
oh and remove cyno info from map thats just ridiculous, oh and how many people active in systems thats another
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#68 - 2016-02-21 09:47:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Yeah, Locators need a buff. Being able to use them remotely would be a good start. Stupid that you need to sit an alt in a station for this.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2016-02-21 09:57:30 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Droidster wrote:
Gankers and whale riders rejoice.

How are location agents going to work now? You pay 250K and the guy says "Sorry, the scumbag is not on right now. Thanks for the money." ?

How do mercs like this change now that they can't tell if their targets are online or not?


No change to locator agents was mentioned. If anything, the locator agent feature is likely to get overhauled and buffed.

For the locator agent buff I propose they release Locus IDs.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#70 - 2016-02-21 09:58:21 UTC
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#71 - 2016-02-21 10:00:16 UTC
beakerax wrote:
I support this discontinuation of product and or service

Morrigan LeSante wrote:
So as long as we're killing free, accurate intel; when is local dying in a fire?
Or are we only cockblocking intel that increases, rather than decreases risk?

some people enjoy having content in their video games


Spoken like a true risk averse pansy.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#72 - 2016-02-21 10:05:57 UTC
Cixi wrote:
Bearcastle wrote:
As it leaks out, could give us some insight, CCP, about it !


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Gabriel Karade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#73 - 2016-02-21 11:27:00 UTC
Gabriel Karade wrote:
Masao Kurata wrote:
Thank you for reaffirming my decision to leave. Watchlists aren't just for supers, and space is too big to hunt people without in game tools.

Hunting people worked just fine before watch lists, and will continue to do so after this. I think you are being a bit rash if you leave because of this.

Just want to re-emphasize that bit.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#74 - 2016-02-21 11:39:04 UTC
Doesn't that just mean that rather than no counter gameplay to seeing if someone is online, there will now just be no counter gamplay to someone preventing you seeing they are online? Seem like if the problem is that the mechanic isn't active, then flipping the switch so it's the same but the other way round is the wrong way to go about it.

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Gabriel Karade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#75 - 2016-02-21 11:43:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Gabriel Karade
It just means you have to go old school - I can't remember the exact date/expansion, but 'watch-lists' ('buddy' lists as they branded them) as they function now, were not around until mid 2005.

Edit: I never liked the idea back then either, seemed immersion breaking...

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#76 - 2016-02-21 12:05:45 UTC
It seems that I have this feature enabled like for few years already.

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Valkin Mordirc
#77 - 2016-02-21 12:07:25 UTC
Gabriel Karade wrote:
Gabriel Karade wrote:
Masao Kurata wrote:
Thank you for reaffirming my decision to leave. Watchlists aren't just for supers, and space is too big to hunt people without in game tools.

Hunting people worked just fine before watch lists, and will continue to do so after this. I think you are being a bit rash if you leave because of this.

Just want to re-emphasize that bit.



You can indirectly emphasize all you want to.

And I'd rather not let a "Back In my Day" argument to the resounding factor in terms of watchlists.

If I want to roam aimlessly about trying to stumble across a wartarget. I'd rather be in lowsec and not bother paying the 50mil+

In Nullsec, Watchlisting is Overpower as an intel tool.

In highsec it's a fair and balanced intel tool.

So a blanket nerf is lazy on CCP's part.
#DeleteTheWeak
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#78 - 2016-02-21 12:56:14 UTC
It's also a hilarious nerf to small/medium sized units who do not have the manpower to put an alt in every staging system.

Higher alt requirement, what a thrilling gameplay benefit.

Why they don't just add a random delay to this (and local) is beyond me.
Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2016-02-21 13:04:38 UTC
I hear they got the idea from tinder.
thatonepersone
Black Jack 0-1
#80 - 2016-02-21 14:14:37 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Masao Kurata wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
It's not a nerf to non-consensual PvP. It's a nerf to a stupid meta-game mechanic that provides perfect, infallible intelligence across the entire universe.


You need perfect infallible intelligence across the galaxy of at least this basic level to hunt someone unless you never leave your computer, sleep or do anything in EVE other than sit outside his station.


Maybe you can bribe one of his corp mates to tell you when he is or isn't online.

But let me guess, you can't do that because then that would risk exposing yourself, alerting the one you're tracking to his being tracked.

You can't take any risk, but the other guy should be completely open to it.

Got it.


Except the target could just as easily add the hunter to his watch list. Which is what people do. The watch list compensates for the fact that people dont play during all of there wakeing hours. Other wise you are just wasting your time stalking somebody who may or may not be online.