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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#181 - 2016-02-23 23:44:20 UTC
Tiffany Hope wrote:
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Pandora Carrollon wrote:


Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again!

Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if...


Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row.
That's what I was doing! lol. I was trying to see how far I could go. I was looking for this place called fountain that I read about. I got there, then I got killed lol. But I mined a little bit too just to be cheeky :)


Keep that attitude and you will win EvE.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#182 - 2016-02-23 23:46:22 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row.

My record is about 42 before I made a mistake.

Last time I had my ship destroyed, I thought, "Hmm ... that's a clever strategy. I should do that too!"

[Playing "Blockade Runner Roulette", by one-volleying them with a Tornado.]

I then docked and bought another Blockade Runner (still have it).


I normally name my BRs "Tradewinds" but I think I'll name my next one "piñata"

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#183 - 2016-02-24 03:08:39 UTC
Tiffany Hope wrote:
Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff.

I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think.

You are on the right track. Joining a corp is only one way to find people to do stuff with. We've also already covered public chat channels.

I believe we've also talked about public NPSI fleets but I think it is worth mentioning here again.

Null sec mining can be fun but be warned most of the fun in that is people linking stuff in and talking in local and that can get nasty at times. But then again if you are easily offended then mining fleets are the least of your concerns in this game.

To do stuff with people however you are going to have to meet up with people in game and not on the forums. I mean you can transition from one to the other but I think it's probably more effective to do it in game.

Another thing that you can do if you get bored with missions is get in a cheap combat ship and run out to NRDS null sec and try some ratting and talking to the locals. Se which happens first if you get blown up by a roaming red or make a friend or two.

Talking in local anywhere while you are doing what you do can be a good way to make friends. It can also be a good way to make enemies but that is all dependent upon how you go about it.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#184 - 2016-02-24 03:24:36 UTC
Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head.

If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#185 - 2016-02-24 03:29:06 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head.

If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people.

KOS? CVA? Sorry :(

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Ace Lapointe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2016-02-24 03:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Lapointe
Tiffany Hope wrote:
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head.

If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people.

KOS? CVA? Sorry :(


KOS = Kill On Sight
CVA = Group that lives in Providence
Providence = Spectre Hunting Grounds

Myself, I love Providence and what they have managed to build over the years, unfortunately, nobody told me when I started that if i shot someone, I would be made KOS, so now, it is my hunting grounds, I wanted to FC for them to be honest, but wouldn't remove my KOS, so yeah, look up Providence, it is really impressive what they have done.

As I said the other night, when you are a little more skilled in game, and want to try PvP, let me know, you know I FC, and I have my own NewBro thing I run, I don't know if I told you that already or not, but yeah, you just have to get into the mentality that a ship is nothing, it can be replaced, and flying in PvP, it will be replaced daily, hourly, hell, even minutely when you start up, convo me agian tonight if I am online, and I will send you another basic PvP ship, probably be a Merlin to be honest, they are in the Doctrine I was going to run this weekend, so you will fit nicely, and that way you can learn the commands, the basics, see what it is like, and see how you enjoy it :)
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#187 - 2016-02-24 07:12:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkoth 24
Tiffany Hope wrote:
KOS? CVA? Sorry :(

CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.

Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.

They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit.
Memphis Baas
#188 - 2016-02-24 14:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
CVA is a player alliance: Curatores Veritatis Alliance. They roleplay as Amarr loyalists, and also anti-piracy. They used to be opposed by another alliance, Ushra'Khan, who roleplayed Minmatar freedom fighters and used to attack CVA for their Amarr roleplay. I'm not sure if Ushra'Khan is still active. EDIT: CVA website.

What's unique about Providence and CVA is that they're one of the very few alliances that operates under a NRDS (not red, don't shoot) policy, basically allowing neutral characters to enter their space and do whatever they wish. Most other alliances operate under NBSI (not blue, shoot it), basically they will blockade all the gates entering their area and shoot anyone who is not a member of the alliance.

So basically a newbie can go into Providence and see nullsec without being hunted by the locals. If you behave and don't attack them, they'll leave you alone; if you attack them they'll set their standings towards you to "red" and start killing you every time you try to enter. You get a chance to experience the 0.0 life; see the outposts they've built, get docking rights to their stations, be able to mine the good stuff or shoot the battleship NPC pirates (rats) that appear in the asteroid belts.

The area is, of course, infiltrated by roaming PVP fleets regularly. CVA does defend, and you can join their "intel" chat channels to get warnings of threats and report intruders, but often the PVP'ers will kill and retreat before CVA can respond. So you also get a taste of the nullsec PVP, under a bit more favorable conditions than being kill-on-sight with the locals.

I've lived in Providence for a while, long ago; my group had a few player-owned outposts (POSes); we'd keep our gear and ships inside the POS shields and venture out and PVP helping the locals against raiders.

The hardest part is getting there, because there are only two pipelines going in, and they're both camped / blocked by NBSI alliances or pirates. Here's a guide on avoiding gatecamps.
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
Federation Uprising
#189 - 2016-02-24 18:22:42 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.

Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.

They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit.


Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game.

If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA.

The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them.

What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space.

However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#190 - 2016-02-24 21:03:07 UTC
Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps.

I still have about half a billion of stuf in providence that I should probably move out.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#191 - 2016-02-24 21:13:02 UTC
So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them?

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#192 - 2016-02-24 21:17:32 UTC
Tiffany Hope wrote:
So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them?
No need, they won't mind what race your character is as long as you follow their rules.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#193 - 2016-02-24 21:29:21 UTC
oh ok. But if I am looking to join a corporation they would be a good option?

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#194 - 2016-02-24 21:30:09 UTC
Just until I am good enough to start my own and take over the universe of course :)

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#195 - 2016-02-24 21:56:50 UTC
CVA is an alliance of corporations. Although things do change, CVA usually owns half of Providence outright, and rents out the rest to other Alliances that accept the NRDS policy.

AFAIK, the only CVA member corp that is strictly Amarr is PIE. But they have a public channel, "Pie public" where you can go and ask around. If you indicate interest in joining CVA, i'm sure they can point you in the right direction.

A lot of corps will have a public channel. It is a good way to meet the new corp and decide if they act in way you can tolerate.

Some corp might seem great from the adds and all. But then you get in and TS is just filled with racial epithets, shock pics, and porn. Others try to be family oriented and keep everything safe for work at all times. So I strongly encourage you to meet people, as others have said.

The tools are nice, but they just point out opportunities, you still have to do the work.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#196 - 2016-02-24 22:11:23 UTC
So someone said I would be a lot more likely to find a good corp that will take me far if I let them know I am DTF. How do I know if I am and what is it?

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#197 - 2016-02-24 23:46:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Tiffany Hope wrote:
So someone said I would be a lot more likely to find a good corp that will take me far if I let them know I am DTF. How do I know if I am and what is it?



I dunno that one. I hope it's not a veiled insult.

edit - Actually, google makes it look like a definite insult. Ignore that asshat. Just follow the advice we have been giving you, and use that how to find a corp 3.0 sticky. It is literally years of experience condensed into text.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#198 - 2016-02-25 00:02:31 UTC
Ok. Yeah I had to leave those recruitment places. I literally cried :(

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Hyeon Ansuya
Kitzedoba Fleet
#199 - 2016-02-25 00:53:16 UTC
Pandora Carrollon wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.

Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.

They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit.


Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game.

If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA.

The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them.

What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space.

However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec.


I am already liking these guys and I'll definitely go look for them at some point.
Yep, I'm Amarr. Sorry for the intrusion in this thread and thanks for the precious information!
Tiffany Hope
Titans of The Short Bus
#200 - 2016-02-25 01:47:43 UTC
Hyeon Ansuya wrote:
Pandora Carrollon wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:
CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.

Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.

They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit.


Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game.

If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA.

The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them.

What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space.

However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec.


I am already liking these guys and I'll definitely go look for them at some point.
Yep, I'm Amarr. Sorry for the intrusion in this thread and thanks for the precious information!

Not quite sure I understand what just happened?

Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)