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suggestion to making it easiter to getting characters out to 0.0

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#21 - 2016-02-16 05:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
You do realize there are different routes you can take? If HED is comped, I can usually go around to Stain via Great Wildlands. It's a lot longer, but the camping is less rampant and I make it safely through.

Also, warmholes. Keeping probes snuggly warm, and a little bit wet for years. They are a great way for newbies to go to null, and the skill of scanning helps in pvp too.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#22 - 2016-02-16 05:42:52 UTC
Fire sell all things, undock, self destruct. you are now out of null

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#23 - 2016-02-16 08:24:20 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
cap pilot watchlisted. thanks


More intel for you, I can fly Moros Rhea, Chimera, Archon, Wyrvern and Aeon. Currently only have a Chimera which is in Chardalane and the Archon which is in 9O-ZTS in Stain. Only this account is currently subbed and this baby is sitting in +5's in a station in deep hisec earning SP's for obvious reasons. Dream on...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2016-02-16 08:28:44 UTC
it was a joke because the player is in coalition with me, guy.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#25 - 2016-02-16 08:34:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Tau Cabalander wrote:
My record for jumps through lowsec & nulsec (mostly) in an Ibis rookie-ship is 43. Nearly all stop & pull bubbles are detectable and avoidable. The ones directly on gates are so annoying that they typically get destroyed by the first fleet that gets stuck in it.

[I could have gotten further, but there was an unavoidable small gate-camp with a bubble directly on the incoming gate, and though I made it through, my next decision was a bad one: warp around in-system until my shield recharged a bit. I then went for the exit-gate and was followed-through by the interceptor that attacked me earlier, which immediately locked me and finished the job. Had I just jumped through the exit-gate immediately, they would have had weapons timers and been unable to follow.]


Thats funny, I made it from hisec into Stain via Providence using an Ibis with the fit I detailed but got caught by a dramiel with a bubble on a gate one jump out from my destination, I think 46 jumps, its the way it goes, ECM failed, damn that.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/30992251/

Prior to that

https://zkillboard.com/kill/30990597/

That was funny because I arrived at their bubble crashed the gate even with a fleet there but got caught on the other side which was also bubbled.

The event I was talking about was in Stain and I got away from an interceptor 3 times but was in structrure at that point then jumped into a gate camp but cloaked up and they missed the decloak so slowboated down for about 3 hours.

This is why Eve is a bundle of laughs at time.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#26 - 2016-02-16 08:35:34 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
it was a joke because the player is in coalition with me, guy.


Real data, but I was having fun too.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2016-02-16 08:54:35 UTC
Okay, but your 16 man corp and 22 man alliance would lead one to believe otherwise.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2016-02-16 08:55:53 UTC
Quote:
Description:
Second-Dawn is an alliance operating in 0.0 and hisec space.
WE SUPPORT THE ANTI-GANKING MOVEMENT.

Seriously? How, by not undocking?
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#29 - 2016-02-16 08:59:33 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Quote:
Description:
Second-Dawn is an alliance operating in 0.0 and hisec space.
WE SUPPORT THE ANTI-GANKING MOVEMENT.

Seriously? How, by not undocking?


Dormant basically, all the other chaps are playing other games as am I to be truthful, its the way it goes.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Gliese Casserres
Confused Bunnies Inc
#30 - 2016-02-16 09:27:39 UTC
If you can't wiggle yourself to 0.0 you don't belong there. All it takes is effort and determination. On every death you'll learn something new. Unless your method resembles hitting your head to a brick wall and wondering why can't I get through - try going around next time.
Sdar Razik
Doomheim
#31 - 2016-02-16 15:05:20 UTC
I just came back but some years ago I joined a corp and went to 0.0. Now this was a good corp with good people and I moved there with my 2 chars. Noobish and with 250 million ISK a hurricane and a retriever I took part in mining ops and some fighting. But that took it's toll. With not much income it did not take too long to lose my ships and most of my ISK.

Came back to high sec with 22 million ISK and a frigate.

Now I'm back up to 525 million ISK doing level 4 in a Fleet Hurricane with my 54 million SP. The only missions I don't do is the Anomic and Worlds Collide (It's just too long) and saving for a well fitted Machariel.

Let's say that I'm very reluctant in doing that again, So I'll carebear it until I feel comfortable that losing a few ships wont bring back down to 25 million isk.

Ibutho Inkosi
Doomheim
#32 - 2016-02-16 15:25:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ibutho Inkosi
This is so hilarious at this point, I really have to make a comment. This crowd here is always telling everyone how 0.0 is so easy, and so-called "carebears" are deluded and hallucinating thinking this isn't true. The real game is 0.0, and if you aren't playing there, you just aren't playing EVE. It's a "simple matter" of just pointing your ship there and wooosh! You're in (you "risk averse" momma's boys!)

THEN...it's asked, "Okay, I tried to get there but can't get past the gankfest. What's the trick?" Now these self same people offer up the most convoluted, time-consuming, highly-specialised (but, do it in a noobship) remedies possible...including, get ten noobships killed then go in with a ship that takes a few weeks to be able to mod per instructions. And, just make a clone in every system you pass on the way so you don't have to redo all that travel time you've spent.

Of course, there's the "jump in a wormhole and wish it comes out somewhere near where you want to be." (One of my favorites.) The ever present "make a bunch of friends over night and get them to escort you in, or they're not really your friends so you need to make some newer, BETTER friends...."

Yeah. THEN when you get out there. "It's boring." and "There's no fights." and "They ruined the meta game." and "All there is is rental property." capped by "Null sec is boring. NOBODY'S OUT HERE."

It's so funny to read these threads on this forum for a length of time to see the overall loopy logic these folks offer new people. When not doing that, they're just passing out general doomsday warnings like, "Whatever you decide to do, you'd better do it right or you're DEAD!" SOOOooooooo engouraging to read!

"Null is now like low sec with the gate camps."

That's really playing EVE guys. Hang out at gates and gank traffic. Count the ISK as your measure of "success" and show us your padded killboards as testament to your enviable prowess...and "decision making" abilities. Woo hoo.

Sorry you asked yet?

As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#33 - 2016-02-16 15:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Ibutho Inkosi wrote:
THEN...it's asked, "Okay, I tried to get there but can't get past the gankfest. What's the trick?" Now these self same people offer up the most convoluted, time-consuming, highly-specialised (but, do it in a noobship) remedies possible...including, get ten noobships killed then go in with a ship that takes a few weeks to be able to mod per instructions. And, just make a clone in every system you pass on the way so you don't have to redo all that travel time you've spent.

Sorry you asked yet?


Well he did ask about going there as a new player, cloaks, ECM, nanos and MWD's are all worth training up for and a noob ships costs nothing, and those fits cost very little.

It was a way to get through the gate camps cheaply which is what I thought he was after. I do admit to doing it for a laugh, its funny to see just how much time some people will waste trying to kill a character with no implants in a noob ship, never ceases to crack me up, maybe it is my sense of humour.

Often its just breaking through the first system and then avoiding the choke points, another important trick is to learn how to make BM's off grid by gates to avoid bubbles, its the most important thing you can do, I will spend ages setting up bookmarks in all the systems I intend to operate in.

But yeah I understand where you are coming from, to be honest most of the time I cannot be bothered, for me it was made easier for people to catch ships, different warp speeds, ships immune to D-scan and my preferred ship having its range nerfed so I could not use it to kite to a safe spot. But the real killer is that there are just too many people with Black ops ships now which is why I do level 4's if I want ISK.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#34 - 2016-02-16 20:48:50 UTC
I got my 0.0 kicks in a wormhole (two actually) but ran out to low sec in a wormhole yesterday and nobody was camping any gates, there were only a couple of players there at all. Went back to my stomping grounds and kept working on my probe use skills. Doesn't matter if the toon is trained, I still suck at it.

So, yup, will go to 0.0 someday and will use wormholes to get there. I just don't have time to play jump games. I'm scouring Dotlan to find where I'm going out there, but even that is a lot of work! So, 0.0 is a homework fest for me... sheesh.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#35 - 2016-02-16 20:55:50 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
You do realize there are different routes you can take? If HED is comped, I can usually go around to Stain via Great Wildlands. It's a lot longer, but the camping is less rampant and I make it safely through.

Also, warmholes. Keeping probes snuggly warm, and a little bit wet for years. They are a great way for newbies to go to null, and the skill of scanning helps in pvp too.



providence is not a bad route to go, as long as your not on cva's kos list. I used ot take this route via the kari pipe (my old home) to get to 0.0 if hed was camped. Its usually clear (been a while though and i play at night PST, so might be crowded during the day)

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#36 - 2016-02-16 22:06:31 UTC
Ibutho Inkosi wrote:
This crowd here is always telling everyone how 0.0 is so easy, and so-called "carebears" are deluded and hallucinating thinking this isn't true. The real game is 0.0, and if you aren't playing there, you just aren't playing EVE. It's a "simple matter" of just pointing your ship there and wooosh! You're in (you "risk averse" momma's boys!)

I think if you look back through a heap of threads, you might find that the is no "this crowd".

There's just a community in which different people have different opinions, views and advice and quite often opposing views to a lot of things. I don't think you'll find a single person for example that expresses every one of those views you've listed. They are bits and pieces from different people and not the view of any one "crowd" that regularly post here.
Ginnie
Doomheim
#37 - 2016-02-16 22:53:45 UTC
To be entirely fair, Null can be boring if you don't have an active corp and/or alliance. If people are active than you can do a lot and it can be a lot of fun. But, if I am going to run combat sites over and over again all by myself, I would rather do it in High Sec where I can run Level 4 missions instead and get LPs.

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2016-02-16 23:02:58 UTC
Ginnie wrote:
To be entirely fair, Null can be boring if you don't have an active corp and/or alliance. If people are active than you can do a lot and it can be a lot of fun. But, if I am going to run combat sites over and over again all by myself, I would rather do it in High Sec where I can run Level 4 missions instead and get LPs.



It is not that hard to get into null and much hilarity can be had ninja looting and afk camping in a cheap cloaky in bluesec renter space.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#39 - 2016-02-24 01:53:49 UTC
Every null-sec region should be bordered at some point by NPC null. That would be pretty rad.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2016-02-24 04:31:05 UTC
If you can fly nothin' but a pod, you have no business in 0.0

Seriously.

nullified capsules... they're called Interceptors. Train a Frig to V rather than Cybernetics V. Drop 24 mil ISK. If you can't ceptor use a bomber. If you have NO frig to V you're probably a brand new spy alt hoping to plug in some voodoo-fix-me-up paid for with your main's ISK -- but don't pretend like you're doing it for the newbros man.
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