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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#701 - 2016-07-22 18:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
MidnightWyvern wrote:
He's saying that no matter how much SP and ISK you have you don't become any better at playing the game. You can drop $3k on your first day in EVE and have the best ship on the planet and if you fight someone who knows how to play the game you'll get absolutely destroyed.

There is no game where you can buy player skill since that is something you just can't buy. The term p2w is used for games where you can invest money to remove a paywall which would otherwise use a lot of work ingame or waiting time because you can only accumulate a certain amount of gold or xp or sp.. etc.

This was always true for ISK in EVE, now it is also true for SP. I don't think there is anything left in EVE to make it even more p2w.

Golden ammo, ships, and modules.

Since the extractor is something which can not be produced by players this is basically the same as golden ammo


So are skill books and blueprints.

I would also point out that in and of itself an extractor is useless. It becomes useful once it is full...of something players do produce.

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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#702 - 2016-07-22 18:51:26 UTC
NUBIARN wrote:
incredibly he has astronautics science skill which I thought no more existed, be interesting if chribba verified this is a genuine API.

There are still skillbooks for it in the game, though not many. There's one in Jita right now for just shy of 75 bil.

If recognition is what you want, go for it, but I think I'd rather have a few supercarriers, instead.

Or at least a Greatcoat, which is (somewhat) visible in your profile image, and can thus be bragged about more easily.

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Boci
Ubiquitous Hurt
The WeHurt Initiative
#703 - 2016-07-23 03:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Boci
Winter Archipelago wrote:
NUBIARN wrote:
incredibly he has astronautics science skill which I thought no more existed, be interesting if chribba verified this is a genuine API.

There are still skillbooks for it in the game, though not many. There's one in Jita right now for just shy of 75 bil.

If recognition is what you want, go for it, but I think I'd rather have a few supercarriers, instead.

Or at least a Greatcoat, which is (somewhat) visible in your profile image, and can thus be bragged about more easily.


This is true, I am not sure how it compares in rarity, but I still have a Mobile Refinery Operation skillbook, so not too surprised Iron was able to find an Astronautics Engineering.

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Dave Day
Universal Freelance
#704 - 2016-07-23 11:55:59 UTC
Congrats....your credit card just won Eve.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#705 - 2016-07-24 16:02:54 UTC
Dave Day wrote:
Congrats....your credit card just won Eve.



He doesent need his credit card lol.. He owns an eve casino lol.. He has more money then he knows what to do with.. see WWB
Saelyth
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#706 - 2016-07-25 16:47:23 UTC
What I don't understand is why people are complaining about his skill points at all. Someone even tried to describe the character as "unbeatable." Unbeatable at what? In a contest of "who has more skill points?" All skills cap out at 5. I don't need 5s in EVERYTHING to max out performance on a given ship.

Further, I don't even need 5s in everything for a given ship to destroy some other ship, either. Neither do you.

There is no single ship that beats all other ships in the game. Not a one.

Really, the guy did this to show everyone how big his epeen is. I'm not impressed by it, and that character's ships will still die in a fire like everyone else's when they run into a situation they aren't prepared for handling.

Skill points don't make EVE pay to win. If you still suck at the game and fly into bad situations, YOU STILL DIE.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#707 - 2016-07-25 18:25:52 UTC
Saelyth wrote:
What I don't understand is why people are complaining about his skill points at all. Someone even tried to describe the character as "unbeatable." Unbeatable at what? In a contest of "who has more skill points?" All skills cap out at 5. I don't need 5s in EVERYTHING to max out performance on a given ship.

Further, I don't even need 5s in everything for a given ship to destroy some other ship, either. Neither do you.

There is no single ship that beats all other ships in the game. Not a one.

Really, the guy did this to show everyone how big his epeen is. I'm not impressed by it, and that character's ships will still die in a fire like everyone else's when they run into a situation they aren't prepared for handling.

Skill points don't make EVE pay to win. If you still suck at the game and fly into bad situations, YOU STILL DIE.


Wut? Are you kidding me? Please, having Minmatar carrier to 5 clearly helps you fly an imicus. Sheesh.

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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#708 - 2016-07-25 18:49:20 UTC
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnndddddddddd..... there goes the game...

Eve = P2W people, everyone who says otherwise is just... silly Lol
Saelyth
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#709 - 2016-07-25 18:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Saelyth
Teckos Pech wrote:

Wut? Are you kidding me? Please, having Minmatar carrier to 5 clearly helps you fly an imicus. Sheesh.


What was I thinking? Surely never before in the history of EVE has someone with less skill points killed someone with more skill points. Or ever has anyone with more lost to someone with less. Ever.

On a similar note, no one with more expensive modules or purples has ever lost a fight with anyone without.


Ever.

Not even to me.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#710 - 2016-07-25 19:01:35 UTC
Saelyth wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:

Wut? Are you kidding me? Please, having Minmatar carrier to 5 clearly helps you fly an imicus. Sheesh.


What was I thinking? Surely never before in the history of EVE has someone with less skill points killed someone with more skill points. Or ever has anyone with more lost to someone with less. Ever.

On a similar note, no one with more expensive modules or purples has ever lost a fight with anyone without.


Ever.

Not even to me.


Yes, but because I have fighters trained to lvl 5 I will beat you when I'm flying a zealot. Always.

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#711 - 2016-07-25 19:31:17 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:


Yes, but because I have fighters trained to lvl 5 I will beat you when I'm flying a zealot. Always.


Well, you have the option of switching ships, so tactically there could be an advantage.

Ok... it's a stretch, but the option is still there.
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