EVE General Discussion

Did you pay attention to what JonnyPew was saying? He did it for three main reasons:

1: To keep a record of him doing something so incredible that he could look back on it and recall it completely.

2: To show all of us how to work with the extractors/injectors

3: To move his active main from Sir Livingston to JonnyPew.

His 4th sub reason was 'to get rid of all the skills he had trained that he'd trained just to keep his character training'.

This is EXACTLY what the entire SP Trading was intended to be for, so maybe the CEO's mind was blown by someone actually using it for what it was intended for.

JonnyPew demonstrated that he had to blow large amounts of his stored PLEX to get enough extractors to get the extractors. Then he LOST SP value in putting it into injectors and had to be careful not to inject too much to avoid the 70% penalty at 80 mil SP. The entire video was a veteran doing what CCP planned vets to do with it.

Yes they can convert them into PLEX and get richer... so what, you can do the same by just playing the game as an expert and being efficient at ISK gathering.

Yes, you can do what IronBank did and WASTE MASSIVE AMOUNTS of SP by maxxing out a character with SP. This isn't something that is cool or even remotely damaging to the game. It demonstrates that someone with enough time or money or both can blow it all on a useless exercise. There is nothing in the game he can fly that can't be killed in. His skills will not save him.

I don't admire what Ironbank did, it was a useless waste of resources and now people are holding it as an example of how the game is ruined. I'm sorry, I don't agree at all. There are controls on the SP trading/injecting process and you have to be willing to completely blow away massive resources to get past them. No sane person will do this for an actual playing toon unless they like wasting time/money.

I do admire what JonnyPew did and thank him greatly for his example of how the system works and how it can be used by vet players to continue to make their EVE experience fun and new. It gives me hope for keeping the game fresh. +10 to JonnyPew.

Instead of griping about it, just play the game your way, who cares what anyone else does. Go blow away IronBank if you ever run across him- THAT is bragging rights. I play for me and don't care how well trained your toon is. I'm working on my toon!

Not sure I'd want to join them anyway, as having sp doesn't necessarily make you a decent pilot. Those that think it does, won't be worth joining.

That alone makes the CB much better (or less bad) than SP trading. Now it's pushed into everybodys face, which in and of itself creates some kind of pressure to buy some SP already.

Also - you could never buy anything on the CB that was impossible to achieve without normal skill training. So, you could not buy a maxed out character. Now you can. True, it's much more expensive than the CB, but the simple fact that this character exists is proof that balancing something through the price does not work.

Not everyone, I realised much later on, after I'd see the figures.

Meh, who cares? Just because someone may be willing to spend massive amounts of isk/RL cash to max a character doesn't mean a damned thing. Just because he/she has the SP doesn't mean he/she has the skill, experience and/or common sense needed to use them.

Can we now move on to the next big bittervet ***** session item please?

I wouldn't know what anyone has got, as I don't use 3rd party programs. don't even use Evemon.

On a personal level after spending a long time maxing out armor comps to 5 and waiting that time then being in a trial by fire and watching your ship take the full brunt of the enemies fleet being within a hair of exploding into hull... and then being saved at the last second by guardian reps and saying to yourself thank god I spent that time on those skills or I would be in a pod and then in a new pod...

and now realizing that no one else has to wait like you did its all available right now if you pay for it.

and the price you paid in time investment. the choices you made with your meager skill points for what you wanted to do...

does not matter now as its all available... right now.

that cheapens the whole experience in ways beyond description to the point of futility.

Well, frankly this would only be true if IronBank were to utilize all of his skills that his character possesses in combat...besides that, odds are that IronBank has already had all his important combat skills maxed out for years already. It was a rather old main char to begin with, right? Correct me if I am wrong here :p

Come to think of it, the salty tears whining becomes that much more amusing considering that an overwhelming majority of the more experienced players insist that having alts is the best way to play the game cause of...you know, multitasking which increases efficiency and all that stuff.

The only real reason for why people are whining is the fact that IronBank managed to produce a huge e-peen in notime and slap everyone in the face with it - hard.





By the way....who expects that even 5% of the EVE population will do what IronBank did?

Tell that the new instant gratification generation. Its like describing a rainbow to a blind man

They'll learn eventually (in game and out). They won't like it, but they'll learn.