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First Maxed Eve account.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#281 - 2016-02-15 16:10:42 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Everything a player can normally acquire through time or effort can be bought for real life cash.
Thats the thing though, time and effort is already made, nothing is conjured out of thin air
There was a time, when you paid for access to a game world, where you were anonymous, role playing was the norm and people would start on a level playing field, no matter their real life circumstances.

Now people can pay to cheat their way forward in games that have corrupted communities of tantrum kids.

Games have become business as any other, so people throwing cash on games, and willing to spend more, will be satisfied.
And remember, CCP only allows players to redistribute earned SP with other characters, something that was allowed with character bazaar earlier. Now its just more convenient, and some SP are lost. Twisted


People grow the **** up. Games have always been a business.

Can't believe I had to explain this to adults. Roll

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#282 - 2016-02-15 16:17:21 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
So when this guy is primaried and podded again and again just because....that will mean what?

Keep in mind this player has spent the equivalent of $30,000 to get his 1 character to maxe in everything, but he'll die again and again to a small gang of characters with 1/10th his SP.

Unless he gangs up he is going to be everyone's favorite target.



I don't know. Does he ever undock?

I don't mind him (or me if it was me) becoming New Eden's Most Wanted. That would be a kind of fun list to be on.


If he never undocks...who cares?

So he has a maxed trade alt...who doesn't? P


Even if he does undock. He can fly any ship. Big deal. If you buy alts from the bazaar, you as a player can also do the exact same thing. The number of SP a single ship can use is limited anyway and require nowhere near the actual cap. Meanwhile, if you did it with multiple character, you can undock 2 ships at the same time while he can't because he's a single capsuler.


True $30,000 would buy alot of characters.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Six Strangelove
Quam Singulari
#283 - 2016-02-15 16:21:29 UTC
This was obviously very expensive to pull off. But it still feels... cheapening, somehow.
Lasisha Mishi
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#284 - 2016-02-15 16:22:54 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:

True $30,000 would buy alot of characters.

i think $30,000 would almost get you your own private server
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#285 - 2016-02-15 16:23:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:

True $30,000 would buy alot of characters.

i think $30,000 would almost get you your own private server


$30,000 is many people's income...for a year.

To put this in perspective.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

stg slate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#286 - 2016-02-15 16:24:36 UTC  |  Edited by: stg slate
Teckos Pech wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Everything a player can normally acquire through time or effort can be bought for real life cash.
Thats the thing though, time and effort is already made, nothing is conjured out of thin air
There was a time, when you paid for access to a game world, where you were anonymous, role playing was the norm and people would start on a level playing field, no matter their real life circumstances.

Now people can pay to cheat their way forward in games that have corrupted communities of tantrum kids.

Games have become business as any other, so people throwing cash on games, and willing to spend more, will be satisfied.
And remember, CCP only allows players to redistribute earned SP with other characters, something that was allowed with character bazaar earlier. Now its just more convenient, and some SP are lost. Twisted


People grow the **** up. Games have always been a business.

Can't believe I had to explain this to adults. Roll


No, games are magical unicorns built of sunshine by poor hippies without a paycheck just for the love of making games.

Any attempt to make any money from them is 'selling out' and completely invalidates all the hard 'work' of everyone who played the game EVER. Games should for some reason be a magical place where the poor don't have to worry about being **** on by those crazy 'rich' people with their 'jobs' using their wallets to replace months of repetitive grinding.

Games are serious business, EVE is real, your actions have consequences you can't escape, reputation, I played since 2004, I liked EVE before it was cool, space Bushido o7 o7.
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
#287 - 2016-02-15 16:25:50 UTC
I think the guy behind this deserves a plaid polyester sportcoat. He's maxed out a now 4-day-old character first, because he can, and second, to showcase the embarrassing shortcomings of the skill trading implementation. Cheesy, at best, but a bold move nonetheless. A small part of me somehow admires him.

I will say this... he's racked up over 25,000 views in just a couple of days, which suggests that skillpoints maybe do have some meaning and value. Great for Chribba's Eveboard hit count too!
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#288 - 2016-02-15 16:27:26 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:

True $30,000 would buy alot of characters.

i think $30,000 would almost get you your own private server


$30,000 is many people's income...for a year.

To put this in perspective.


15$ and hour on 40 hours week. Lots of people don't make that. And i'm not talking about poor 3rd world countries.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#289 - 2016-02-15 16:33:46 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:

True $30,000 would buy alot of characters.

i think $30,000 would almost get you your own private server


$30,000 is many people's income...for a year.

To put this in perspective.


15$ and hour on 40 hours week. Lots of people don't make that. And i'm not talking about poor 3rd world countries.


And that is before taxes!

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Amber Kurvora
#290 - 2016-02-15 16:44:33 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:

True $30,000 would buy alot of characters.

i think $30,000 would almost get you your own private server


$30,000 is many people's income...for a year.

To put this in perspective.


15$ and hour on 40 hours week. Lots of people don't make that. And i'm not talking about poor 3rd world countries.


And that is before taxes!



So we're saying people have more money then sense?
Josef Djugashvilis
#291 - 2016-02-15 16:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
I sincerely hope that the max skill set is some sort of hoax.

Not that I blame the player if this is indeed true; he only did what CCP, in effect, invited players to do.

CCP have opened Pandora's Box, but so long as the cash rolls in, they will not care.

This is not a signature.

Avvy
Doomheim
#292 - 2016-02-15 16:54:51 UTC
Amber Kurvora wrote:




So we're saying people have more money then sense?



When people have much more money than they require, sense need not apply.
Josef Djugashvilis
#293 - 2016-02-15 17:08:28 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
I dont really see the problem.

Until golden ammo it makes no difference how people earn their SP to me.


If, as the defenders of cash for skills claim it is okay because on cannot 'win' Eve, then what would be the problem with gold ammo?

Winning a fight - any fight or fights using gold ammo, does not 'win' Eve as there is no 'win'

This is not a signature.

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#294 - 2016-02-15 17:14:52 UTC
Amber Kurvora wrote:



So we're saying people have more money then sense?


No, not necessarily, just that just because 1 person buys a Ferrari does not mean everyone is.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

perseus skye
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#295 - 2016-02-15 17:25:39 UTC
This is incredibly clever by the guy to draw more attention to whatever he is up too .....a whole discussion that's basically a advertisement gj
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#296 - 2016-02-15 17:30:27 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
I dont really see the problem.

Until golden ammo it makes no difference how people earn their SP to me.


If, as the defenders of cash for skills claim it is okay because on cannot 'win' Eve, then what would be the problem with gold ammo?

Winning a fight - any fight or fights using gold ammo, does not 'win' Eve as there is no 'win'
Not sure if you understand what 'Gold Ammo' refers to.

It means things you can only buy with RL cash.

Fortunately, at the moment there's nothing in EVE that you can't acquire in-game, including SKINs and SP injectors.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Orion Pax
Yoyodyne corporation
#297 - 2016-02-15 17:39:07 UTC
It's just a matter of time for hundreds of players to have maxed out SP.

I foresee a lot of people unsubbing in the near future.
Josef Djugashvilis
#298 - 2016-02-15 17:41:41 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
I dont really see the problem.

Until golden ammo it makes no difference how people earn their SP to me.


If, as the defenders of cash for skills claim it is okay because on cannot 'win' Eve, then what would be the problem with gold ammo?

Winning a fight - any fight or fights using gold ammo, does not 'win' Eve as there is no 'win'
Not sure if you understand what 'Gold Ammo' refers to.

It means things you can only buy with RL cash.

Fortunately, at the moment there's nothing in EVE that you can't acquire in-game, including SKINs and SP injectors.


My dear chap, in case you are not aware of this, CCP has introduced cash for skills, precisely to generate more cash for the company.

All else is smoke and mirrors.

This is not a signature.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#299 - 2016-02-15 17:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
I dont really see the problem.

Until golden ammo it makes no difference how people earn their SP to me.


If, as the defenders of cash for skills claim it is okay because on cannot 'win' Eve, then what would be the problem with gold ammo?

Winning a fight - any fight or fights using gold ammo, does not 'win' Eve as there is no 'win'
Not sure if you understand what 'Gold Ammo' refers to.

It means things you can only buy with RL cash.

Fortunately, at the moment there's nothing in EVE that you can't acquire in-game, including SKINs and SP injectors.


My dear chap, in case you are not aware of this, CCP has introduced cash for skills, precisely to generate more cash for the company.

All else is smoke and mirrors.

Earlier it introduced paying with cash for ISK, and characters full of perfect skills and a lot of SP.
Everything we have now is nothing really changing the situation when CCP earns money, allows you to do something and you pay them for that.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#300 - 2016-02-15 17:52:20 UTC
I don't get why people are crying about this. After all you could do the same thing with the character bazaar which was aroun... oh damn wait...

Where is Dave Stark and Tiberius Franklin when you need them..?