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Do people still fly Garmurs in FW PVP?

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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-02-13 15:36:47 UTC
Just wondering because I haven't seen any for a few months. But all I find are ******* Worms these days.
ImNotCompensating
Alpha Bar
#2 - 2016-02-13 19:46:09 UTC
lmao
Eddie Beeblebrox
Unreasonable Neighbours
Hole Control
#3 - 2016-02-22 01:04:33 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Just wondering because I haven't seen any for a few months. But all I find are ******* Worms these days.

Saw one running today. But tbh, I mostly see slicers when it comes to faction frigs.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#4 - 2016-02-22 01:30:35 UTC
I think they might.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#5 - 2016-02-22 03:24:57 UTC  |  Edited by: pushdogg
Yes they do. With varying degrees of success.

Un-linked they are very underwhelming.
Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#6 - 2016-02-23 22:35:57 UTC
I know OP is trolling but this relates to a recent conversation I was having on comms a week or so ago. We were wondering how much that nerf to Worms really affected them... So we went to zkill for the stats on pirate frigate usage....

First a few notes on the numbers...

  • I did not include the Astero, even though its technically a pirate frigate. With the amount of PVE Asteros that die... I wasn't even going to bother with them.
  • Below are average monthly stats before and after the December nerf. Before = average from Sept-Dec 2015, After = average Jan & Feb 2016.
  • I know the dates are a bit imperfect with the patch happening in mid-late December and February not even over with but since it applies to all of the numbers / frigates I'm presented I figured the analysis is still valid for seeing ship popularity.
  • I was too lazy to filter by areas of space so it's possible that null/wormhole sec meta could be skewing the presented numbers but I have a hunch based on personal experience that the majority of pirate frigate pvp probably happens in low sec. Chime in if you think this assumption is ****... for all I know Pandemic Horde derps Succubus fleets on the regular.



Garmur

  • Before: 10,508 kills / month | 867 deaths / month
  • After: 9,545 kills / month | 843 deaths / month
  • Change: -10% kills | - 3% Deaths


Garmur usage looks pretty steady in usage before and after the December balance. I suspect, if we had a complete February's worth of data it would be near even or +% usage across the patch if people are opting to use it over the Worm. Since the Garmur escaped any changes in the December patch, you might even choose to use it as a control.

Worm

  • Before: 6,018 kills / month | 1,133 deaths / month
  • After: 4,249 kills / month | 953 deaths / month
  • Change: -30% kills | -16% Deaths


Despite, incomplete February data, it's safe to say the Worm is being used far less frequently than it used to be. Market demand and slumping prices also indicate this.


And for fun, here is how the other pirate frigates fared. Note that they also escaped any changes in the December patch.

Dramiel

  • Before: 6,081 kills / month | 804 deaths / month
  • After: 5,737 kills / month | 742 deaths / month
  • Change: -6% kills | -4% Deaths


Again steady numbers that will likely level out with a complete February dataset.

Daredevil

  • Before: 6,177 kills / month | 747 deaths / month
  • After: 6,438 kills / month | 832 deaths / month
  • Change: +4% kills | +11% Deaths


A healthy boost for the Daredevil, despite the incomplete February data.

Cruor

  • Before: 1,404 kills / month | 217 deaths / month
  • After: 1,134 kills / month | 186 deaths / month
  • Change: -19% kills | -15% Deaths


Succubus

  • Before: 1,815 kills / month | 256 deaths / month
  • After: 1,573 kills / month | 260 deaths / month
  • Change: -13% kills | +1% Deaths


And finally it appears that Succubus pilots aren't having a whole lot of luck in the new year.

Anyways hope you found the information useful or entertaining.

Member of #tweetfleet @stalence // Templis CALSF // YouTube Channel

Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#7 - 2016-02-25 16:37:04 UTC
Stalence wrote:
ISo we went to zkill for the stats on pirate frigate usage....


Great info. Where did all the activity go? TD3's?