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[petition] Factional Foreign Legions

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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#1 - 2016-02-11 22:03:45 UTC
Dearest CONCORDIATE SWEETIE DARLINGS,

It should not be necessary to make primitive sava... wild, freeborn spirits with a deep connection to their ancestors and mud bricks LIKE you, or at least not despise you, before they allow you to shoot at people on their behalf.

Kindly remove the factional standing requirements for professional terrorism at your earliest convenience.

Thank you, that is all.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2016-02-11 22:20:01 UTC
I oppose this Petition.

if anything, factional standing requirements should be increased.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2016-02-11 22:35:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Lady Noh, you would not believe the stress and hassle this requirement cost us.

That said, if we were able to convince the Empire that a large number of former Sansha activists, Gurista agents and one spectacularly grumpy Angel of Asakai , were suitable stalwart defenders of Her Imperial Majesty's mighty dominions, you ought to be able to get your blooders sufficiently minmatarised.

Talk to Nauplius. He seems to know exactly what Minmatarness is. I'm sure he can give you pointers.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#4 - 2016-02-11 23:04:24 UTC
Maybe someone should be happy such "savages" let you fight for them in the first place.

I fully oppose this petition. If you wish to do right for our people being seen in decent standing should be a given.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#5 - 2016-02-11 23:22:25 UTC
It isn't just *me*, darling. As Pieter notes (tangent: Pieter! Your hair is back to regulation!), even those who want to fight for golden holy laser imperialists must engage in wild contortions.

And by wild contortions, I mean genocide.

Because what these unreasonable requirements force upon those of us who only want to make a better world is the obliteration of innumerable baseliner vessels. In order to acquire little pieces of toe metal in varying shades, ship after ship must be exploded and its wreckage scoured for shiny detritus suitable for the demands of ghoulish emissaries from the "civilized" world.

All right, well, I suppose when it is put like that I shouldn't really object... all things considered. But I do!

To oppose my sensible, charitable, practically SoE-worthy petition is to be a harbinger of baseliner misery, suffering, and death. Why should hundreds of thousands of men and women only interested in the betterment of their families feel oxygen forcibly sucked from their lungs just so some capsuleers can shoot at one another in predominantly small, nimble cheapy ships?

I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.

Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-02-12 00:40:57 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:

I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.

Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!



CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.

And people say I have a criminal background...

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-02-12 01:29:32 UTC
Do these petitions even *do* anything?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#8 - 2016-02-12 01:54:46 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Do these petitions even *do* anything?

Besides providing endless entertainment?
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#9 - 2016-02-12 02:11:03 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.


I refuse to believe that CONCORD is a debased monstrosity devoid of compassion... though it may be godless.

I do, however, approve of being compared to PYRE. Hello, sweeties!

Xs and O O Os!
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-02-12 02:25:20 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.

And people say I have a criminal background...


I've never wanted to set the whole cluster on fire, I just want to start a fire inside the internal bulkheads of another vessel.

Yes, CONCORD permits a merchant of death like myself to operate freely and with little consequence to the lives I take. That you may have moral objections to the current status quo will do little to change it I think. And I quite enjoy being small-time. It lets me focus on the ultraviolence without requirements of nebulous relevancy.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-02-12 03:08:21 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.

And people say I have a criminal background...


I've never wanted to set the whole cluster on fire, I just want to start a fire inside the internal bulkheads of another vessel.

Yes, CONCORD permits a merchant of death like myself to operate freely and with little consequence to the lives I take. That you may have moral objections to the current status quo will do little to change it I think. And I quite enjoy being small-time. It lets me focus on the ultraviolence without requirements of nebulous relevancy.




You are correct. Moral, ethical or religious objections will not change the system.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#12 - 2016-02-12 03:29:03 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
It lets me focus on the ultraviolence without requirements of nebulous relevancy.


Oh I could just read that line over and over again. Wait! I have!
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2016-02-12 05:33:54 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Gosakumori Noh wrote:

I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.

Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!



CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.

And people say I have a criminal background...


You do. Some of us remember back when Nationalism wasn't your drug of choice and, instead, you liked all the OTHER drugs Mr Mokk. It really wasn't all that long ago. Honestly, the product we sell is very straightforward compared to some of the stuff you and your friends peddled.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#14 - 2016-02-12 07:14:06 UTC
To the OP:

Nuts!

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#15 - 2016-02-12 07:45:44 UTC
I spoke with your CEO for a bit today Noh. It was an interesting little chat.

Instead of making pointless petitions you should get off your lazy ass, undock and help her grind those agent missions to get your corp standings up. Remember that friends don't let friends grind level 3s all alone. Share the pain!

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2016-02-12 07:50:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Anabella Rella wrote:
I spoke with your CEO for a bit today Noh. It was an interesting little chat.

Instead of making pointless petitions you should get off your lazy ass, undock and help her grind those agent missions to get your corp standings up. Remember that friends don't let friends grind level 3s all alone. Share the pain!


Fit a Svipul and do it solo. It's not hard, just irritatingly tedious.

Also, sod all these petitions. All it ever does is make somebody feel good about pressing a button that ultimately amounts to nothing. I do not sign these things because I observed nobody ever takes action from having those petitions rubbed into their noses. In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-02-12 09:54:32 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:


Also, sod all these petitions. All it ever does is make somebody feel good about pressing a button that ultimately amounts to nothing. I do not sign these things because I observed nobody ever takes action from having those petitions rubbed into their noses. In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.


With respect Captain, in the time I have known you, you have expressed perhaps the most cynical, self-centred and mercenary opinions on almost every matter. You believe in nothing and no-one, save for your wallet.

There is nothing inherently wrong with such an attitude - and your service, such as it is, still benefits the Federation strategically - but sneering at those who try and and influence matters on a greater scale than personal greed is unworthy.

Petitions of merit are certainly noticed by the powerful. Silence is similarly noticed.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-02-12 10:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:


Also, sod all these petitions. All it ever does is make somebody feel good about pressing a button that ultimately amounts to nothing. I do not sign these things because I observed nobody ever takes action from having those petitions rubbed into their noses. In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.


With respect Captain, in the time I have known you, you have expressed perhaps the most cynical, self-centred and mercenary opinions on almost every matter. You believe in nothing and no-one, save for your wallet.

There is nothing inherently wrong with such an attitude - and your service, such as it is, still benefits the Federation strategically - but sneering at those who try and and influence matters on a greater scale than personal greed is unworthy.

Petitions of merit are certainly noticed by the powerful. Silence is similarly noticed.


I believe that if one actually attempts to effect change, one organises an army that is willing to sweat and bleed for the cause and the means to take effective action and go effect said change. Doesn't have to be an army with guns, but it definitely needs an army of resolve, will and a plan that can actually hurt whoever it was the protest is targeted at, financially and politically.

What I'm seeing here instead is an attempt to raise an army of button-clickers and signature-givers, both of which are meaningless actions unless acting as follow ups to further action. In my experience, such petitions do not come with follow-up actions. Besides, when's the last time one sees a Galnet petition effect anything?

Words and signatures without action amounts to nothing.

Also, you are not entirely right about my skeptical attitude. The only persons I do believe in are my staff and my crew, the people who allow me to stay in space. I also believe in my ships and their ability to get the job done, and the Machine Spirit's will to see anything they set out to do through. In their case, I seek to earn their confidence as an operator who will use them to the upmost of their capabilities.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-02-12 10:27:07 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:


With respect Captain, in the time I have known you, you have expressed perhaps the most cynical, self-centred and mercenary opinions on almost every matter. You believe in nothing and no-one, save for your wallet.



Like my creche drill instructor used to tell me: If you're not an idealist by the time you're twenty you have no heart. But if you're not a cynic by the time you're thirty, you have no brain.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-02-12 10:47:15 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

I believe that if one actually attempts to effect change, one organises an army that is willing to sweat and bleed for the cause and the means to take effective action and go effect said change. Doesn't have to be an army with guns, but it definitely needs an army of resolve, will and a plan that can actually hurt whoever it was the protest is targeted at, financially and politically.


The language you use is militaristic, but the sentiment is one I can accept. However, it is restrictive. It is perfectly possible to mobilise opinion peacefully and effect change by argument, debate and consensus. The idea of a petition is to begin the debate, to judge whether such an 'army' might even exist. In the State for example, your view might be prevalent - one's opinion is given to you and if you defer, perhaps one only has the militray option. In a democracy, one must build consensus. One does not achieve much by 'hurting' one's opponents, at least in peace. Offering something they desire, for their benefit, is a much better strategy.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
What I'm seeing here instead is an attempt to raise an army of button-clickers and signature-givers, both of which are meaningless actions unless acting as follow ups to further action. In my experience, such petitions do not come with follow-up actions. Besides, when's the last time one sees a Galnet petition effect anything?

Words and signatures without action amounts to nothing.


This particular petition is, in my own view, misguided. Nonetheless, many petitions gather people of like mind together for later action. For example, Doctor Priano's laudable attempt to highlight CONCORD's lack of transparency. There is a groundswell of support for her petition, one that CONCORD will not take lightly. We may not see them give in, but I feel sure the Councill will take note and something good will come of the initiative. The actions of IKAME and its partners are at the heart of the petition and form its moral authority - just the attributes that bring political change. One cannot force CONCORD, nor the Minmatar Republic - one can persuade.

Words are in fact, our greatest weapons. Signatures indicate our personal dedciation to an idea. Both are powerful.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
Also, you are not entirely right about my skeptical attitude. The only persons I do believe in are my staff and my crew, the people who allow me to stay in space. I also believe in my ships and their ability to get the job done, and the Machine Spirit's will to see anything they set out to do through. In their case, I seek to earn their confidence as an operator who will use them to the upmost of their capabilities.


I do not condemn your personal motivations. In a way, they have a certain nobility.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

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