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I'm not going back to review what posts were deleted so i'm reiterating.

What is CCP's feeling about the exhumer rebalance so many patches ago? Do they really need even more free ehp?

I think they can only agree that they killed a lot of interesting gameplay and some of the biggest player run events. CCP should go look at a high sec Ice belt and just feel terrible about what they have done to a once intersting part of the game.

They are about to make similar mistake with these changes. The meta will shift to where freighter ganking is something you can only do for fun on a saturday with friends, not a way to play this game.

As a Freighter Pilot, why I think this change needs more thought:

In June 2014 when Freighters/JFs were given lowslots to provide choices around play, one aspect of the increased tank was that the changes provided some good options for smart players to mitigate their risk:



That was a welcome change as it gave options for tank or cargo and smart players that do manage risk gained an advantage over their competitors because they could easily run max cargo, while keeping themselves safe.

For quite a while now CCP have been talking about the benefits of rich experiences as having a positive benefit on player retention and wanting players to be involved in more group based activities.

So why buff AFK play at all, which is what this change does, while giving no benefit to those that already manage their risk effectively?

This change for example has no benefit for people that currently treat hauling as a group activity and use webbing assistance.

Up to now, there has been an advantage that they can fit max cargo, take larger contracts, take more smaller contracts at a time and potentially out earn the solo AFK haulers who need to fit max tank in order to manage some of the risk of being AFK.

Now however, that playing field has been leveled. AFK play is receiving a significant buff to the point where they'll more easily be able to fit max tank and successfully haul AFK. The ability of group play to earn more than solo play is being reduced and in some cases, 2 players working cooperatively might end up earning less individually than a solo AFK hauler.

Giving an EHP buff to solo haulers so that they don't need to manage their risk, reduces the exact thing that was highlighted as a plus from the previous change.

This change provides nothing to those smart players identified before, and only benefits the lazy pilots they compete with.

At least, if this stays as is, change the default warp to distance for autopilot from 15km to 30km, so that the greater EHP of AFK haulers is balanced by the longer time it will take them to haul, providing an ability to maintain a competitive advantage by actually playing the game actively and with others.

If it's about freighter ganking, then this is an unnecessarily complicated fix to a simple problem. Buff freighter EHP only. Problem solved (without dicking around with every other ship in the game).

I think its more so an issue of people nit picking that particular comment. Which was said as more of a "We know you will get upset about this gankers" as opposed to "We are only changing every DCU and all the fits its relevant to in the game because Freighters Hurr"

This change isn't about freighter ganking, although those ships benefit. The first lines of the OP state giving every ship some hull resist % and reducing DCU hull resist % is designed to create a choice in fitting a DCU or not, where no choice seemed to exist before.

I don't think 'keep Eve hard' was the reason it was made active when originally designed.

It was more. 'keep Eve at keyboard' rather than providing benefit to AFK pilots.

T1/T2 industrials, Orca and Bowhead are good examples. I can fit a Damage Control on all of them and when I haul, I gain advantage over AFK pilots because I can activate the module to gain the additional resists.

Switching the module to passive provides equal benefit to AFK pilots that they don't currently gain, particularly for example when autopiloting.

I'm not saying this change is bad, just that it isn't a 'keep Eve hard' change. There's nothing hard about activating a DC, but you do have to be present to do so.

No, it was literally 'We don't have the codebase to make this a passive module'. They've said that themselves many times that it was originally intended to be passive but they had to make it active to work at the time.

I'm currently looking for quotes either way. Haven't found any yet. Will keep looking.

No problem if I'm wrong on that history. I just remember something being said along those lines. It's not a big issue for me either way really. I don't mind that change in the slightest.

+1

If you need your EHP in a non-combat ship something has gone fundamentally wrong somewhere.

Could nerf freighter structure hp by 33%. Or slightly less if you feel it balances with the wreck hp change.

edit-wreck not structure