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This is the tactical rock-paper-scissors. The frigate can stop you from getting away (but can't kill you itself). Without support, the frigate is vulnerable to Drones, various forms of ECM, the 50% of cruisers that can "dial-down" to hit frigates effectively, every destroyer and some more stuff besides.

Battleships are not (and should not be) an "I win" button.

Dont forget the 2.5% web nerf coupled with this. I guess we could all take a damage nerf and use the new compact damage mods...oh wait...that is STILL a nerf to scram ships. Why scram gameplay is being punished in beyond my comprehension.

At no point should they be either. What's so hard about making these modules into small, medium, large with specific side affects of a small warp disrupter, a medium warp disrupter and a large. The current meta means every man and their dog brings a garmur and sit 50k in relative safety, or 26k, it creates crap game play. Don't get me started on ECM, this is a broken mechanic all together. Why would i sacrifice a slot for a module that has "a chance" of success when the returns are a significant less effective ship. It's a trade off and warp disrupters, scrambles and webs should have the same degree of effect. You choose to put a medium disrupter or a large on your ceptor you should have to pay with an equally less effective ship. The modules might have the same range as they do at the moment but tackling a big ship in a small ship should be possible as long as there is an equal trade off.

Suggestion : "Enduring" scram should be better at overload status, rather than better at cap needs.

Who cares the difference between 5GJ per 5s and 2GJ per 5s?
Warp scramblers are rarely stopped by capacitor problems. Yea, Warp disrupters are often halted by cap empty, and I have experienced them under kiting situations many times. Warp scramblers can keep tackling even under neut pressure. Most reasons why scrams get halted are "Burned out".
As for scrams, "less heat emission" or "more module structure HP" is more "Enduring" than "less capacitor use".

nvm.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far!

I'm seeing a lot of concern about the CPU costs of the Domination longpoint and some of the range values on the named scramblers.

For the Domination disruptor, the honest truth is that the old version was simply too strong, better in every way than all its competition. We want to provide a range of choices in faction longpoints with their own advantages and disadvantages. CPU tight fits may want to consider the 26km points for their improved fittings. That being said, we do think there's a bit of room to lower the faction point CPU from the first pass, so we've put together a second pass with slightly lower CPU on all the faction points.

We've also moved the Dark Blood tackle modules into the same stats group as True Sansha. This will generally mean an increase in fitting costs and an increase in range. As you guys pointed out, this better matches the Blood Raider faction traits.

As for the range on named scramblers, the current design isn't an accident but we are also willing to re-evaluate once we see how things develop on SISI. The goal is to provide an actual choice between named and T2 scramblers and this means each option must have tradeoffs. The old system with meta 4 modules dominating T2 was far from ideal. This new version means that fitting a T2 scram will be something many fits will want, but many fits will need to make sacrifices in other areas to reach that goal. The decision of which attributes you value most will be up to each individual pilot.

We are keeping an especially close eye on this change, and if it proves necessary we may tighten up the range gap between T1 and T2. We need to be careful not to let the difference get so close that the compact version becomes default though.

We've also made one other small tweak to the earlier proposal, dropping the capacitor need of the enduring longpoint a bit.

Thanks and keep the feedback coming!

This +3 strength buff to all faction scrams is a HUUUGE bonus to tackling anything with a +2 inherent core strength (which was intended to negate 1 scram but now doesn't), as well as exploration frigates. It basically makes the venture's bonus completely pointless. CCP might as well just remove core stabs from the game. I mean, apparently the goal is to make tackling so moronically easy, why not? If we're just going to pretend like there's things you can do to prevent tackling, but constantly make it less an less likely that any of that will work, hell, might as well just have target locks shut off warp drives.

And this change does nothing to help the real problems like uncatchable interceptors.

There is no such thing. No Interceptor can every be 100% un-catchable as you cannot get any of them down to a 1s-to-warp and 2s-to-warp can still be caught, just with some effort.

a venture has 1 low slot that you can and should fit a warb stab in, same with the t2 industrials though they usually have more than 1 low slot