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Old camera option will be removed Mars 9'th

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#141 - 2016-02-19 23:27:47 UTC
they just posted that due to the csm summit the old camera will remain for another month while they fix stuff

soruce:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6350616#post6350616

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Kaihua Longzhu
Andromeda's Tears
#142 - 2016-02-20 00:19:11 UTC
Please do not remove the old camera. There are a LOT of people who do not like the new one. Leave both options available, please. Choice is important.

And if you do remove the old camera, as the new one makes me nauseous and unable to play, I will have to allow all of my accounts to go unsubscribed.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#143 - 2016-02-20 00:38:57 UTC
I've been trying to duplicate the flashy screen and capture it for bug report, but every time I hit record, the flashy stops. So far it only happens flying an inty.

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Mercur Fighter
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#144 - 2016-02-20 01:53:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Mercur Fighter
CCP, please do not remove the old camera, please at least give players the option of retaining the old Camera.

I think the new Homeworld style camera is a good addition, same with the first person view camera is a good addition.

However, the default camera is bad and it makes me slightly queasy after looking at it for a while, it's just more tiresome to play with the new default camera. It shakes around too much, and it feels like everything is off-center
Jian Mira
Edgar Industries
#145 - 2016-02-20 08:08:16 UTC
Please do not remove the old camera....

Why can't you choose which camera you want...

I prefer the old camera, it does need updating but the new camera is CRAP!

Been playing eve for ages.. long live Eve

Thanks
Sr3s
Elite Space Explorers
#146 - 2016-02-20 09:22:26 UTC
Before the old camera can get removed, we need

- a possibility to center new the camera on the playership
- make the wobbling stop

thanks
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#147 - 2016-02-22 04:48:42 UTC
For the love of God do not remove old cam or at least track cam option it is VASTLY superior to new options.

For starters you can track your own ship and you control level of zoom new options cant come close to it and are complete FAILURE.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Sieges
#148 - 2016-02-22 07:11:16 UTC
-1 for the new camera.
Roebuck Miko
Doomheim
#149 - 2016-02-22 07:18:23 UTC
Give me tracking & custom position and they can do whatever *else* they want.
Mister McQueen
BoomTime
House of Boom
#150 - 2016-02-22 13:25:35 UTC
Who do I bill to remove the vomit from my keyboard?
jsaak
The Bannermen
The Initiative.
#151 - 2016-03-10 16:18:04 UTC
I have to stop playing eve if you remove the old camera because of motion sickness.
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#152 - 2016-03-10 19:01:45 UTC
jsaak wrote:
I have to stop playing eve if you remove the old camera because of motion sickness.

If you open the settings menu, enable the new camera, and uncheck all the boxes on the first (graphics) tab related to camera features. there should be very little residual motion that isn't directly a result of your input. The new camera has changed substantially since this thread started to address this issue.

If you've done this and you still feel the new camera induces motion sickness for you, please post specific feedback (by which I mean, describe what movement you feel is the problem) in the March release - General feedback thread.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Maraner
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
#153 - 2016-03-10 21:02:04 UTC
Don't like it, didn't ask for it.

I have no issue with CCP adding new camera options to the game but WHY remove the old one as a default, or as an option..... it IS after all still in the game at the moment.

I tried it (the new camera) for several days but find it disorientating and disabled it. Quite seriously CCP leave the default in as an option. Don't be ******* bloody minded about this.

You MUST surely be able to throw us a bone over this. Lots of people are complaining about motion sickness, don't be dicks.
Zander Kumamato
The Chaos Void
#154 - 2016-03-10 21:04:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Zander Kumamato
I do miss the right click to turn camera view....

And I do agree with the person above me, CCP should keep adding options, but not remove old ones. Like the right click camera move view thingie.
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
#155 - 2016-03-11 00:12:12 UTC
Mister McQueen wrote:
Who do I bill to remove the vomit from my keyboard?



Your Mother.

Ask her to being down another quart of Mountain Dew while you're at it.



Dan

Honey Never Sleeps. - John Russell
Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
The Serenity Initiative
#156 - 2016-03-11 19:00:18 UTC
Roebuck Miko wrote:
Give me tracking & custom position and they can do whatever *else* they want.


This, Custom Position is really needed when using multiple monitors.


Cat Harkness

CEO

Twilight Labs
Fukurokuji
Pirates of the Chocolate Road
#157 - 2016-03-12 05:57:15 UTC
I agree, CCPlease don't make stop playing because of your need to add non-functional fluff into the game. Please leave the old camera as a "legacy" option, even if it's off by default.

If this isn't going to be, then maybe we need to start a petition... I'm all for signing one.
Thomas Meagher
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2016-03-12 06:17:06 UTC
I think the new camera would be great if it had the same camera tracking as the old camera. Just being able to click and look at an object is very nice!
NovaCat13
Ember Interstellar Inc.
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#159 - 2016-03-12 06:25:50 UTC
Am I going crazy or moving the camera is not an option when engaging warp? Sometimes it seems to work, other times the camera is in a fixed position.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#160 - 2016-03-12 08:22:27 UTC
Fukurokuji wrote:
I agree, CCPlease don't make stop playing because of your need to add non-functional fluff into the game. Please leave the old camera as a "legacy" option, even if it's off by default.

If this isn't going to be, then maybe we need to start a petition... I'm all for signing one.


That's likely to become an issue. The old camera was wrong because of old code, not because of functions. Thus the goal of any new code should have been to replicate the old functions and then improve over that if/as needed/wished.

What we got instead is someone's brainchild which is very shiny but is being de-shinied to death in an attempt to replicate the old functions... with a notorious waste of time. And in the process, no amount of "looks like old function" will keep some players on board because of bugs and functions not included in the design paper. Expect to be a long struggle to get the "pan camera while zooming" function back, as likely it was not in the design paper and it's gona be ridden by bugs and unexpected behavior as they blood&sweat it into the new camera code.

Seriously now. When the FIRST and LAST thing players ask about the new camera is how to make it like the old one, and it takes MONTHS of further coding and testing to achieve that, would you call it a job well done?

"Don't fix what isn't broken" should be the rule. If the code is old but the thing works... don't fix the function! Fix the code instead and you're done.

(But then, how does a developer/art director prove his value before The CCP? There is no merit to do the things as before, not as much as making a new camera with more psssshhhh even if it happens to not be of interest/use for the players and makes some of them physically sick... At CCP, you can always blame it on the customers!)