EVE General Discussion

It would be interesting to see the statistics for new customer generation/retention, existing customer retention, and the actual number of "Real" customers and not just "Subs" with percentage of active/inactive accounts.

If new customer generation/retention is tanking and existing customers are cutting back or leaving,...,

That would not be good.


One issue with this game seems to be new players thinking it is too late to give it a try because the either it is in its twilight, or it is too hard to become competitive.

Its a perception, not a fact.

Breaking that perception is probably the biggest change that would draw in new players that CCP could make. It's possibly why they're aiming for frigs and dessies as the most useful (for general pvp) hulls; so that new players can max their frigate and be caught up fairly quickly in that area. How you actually break that perception is tough but perhaps it could be done with even better insurance on T1 hulls, like you would be able to insure the complete fit ship for pvp or whatever to make it easier for newbs to get involved. T1 ships are quick to train into and improved insurance to lower further the isk loss would make T1 an obvious choice for newbies.

Edit: obviously capitals would not be included in this as not many newbs fly capitals, bigger better ships should have the attached isk loss they do already to penalise using them.

Um, who cares? If it brings more newbies up to par with vets in order to PVP , I'm all for it. (and I say that as a PVPer and lowsec dweller).

It doesn't. Not a single newbie will be made on par with vets in PvP through this change. It only benefits veterans, for the same reason as always.


Probably because no doctrine changes are happening. When the details of the cap revamp become finalised, you'll probably see a lot more of that.

Doesn't really matter what he's squatting in. I'm sure if I ran into a day old player in a maxed orthrus, it wouldn't be hard to use his inexperience against him.

If anything, sp injection will truly show who has skills and who has points.

And the tears will be glorious.

Spartans ...Be like a Spartan !!!

Sparta held one value above all overs. , Skill in Warfare.

A Spartan could kill 10men with his naked body, while his hands tied behind his back.
Always go for the Jugular & bite down hard.
When a women is in Power you will always get Spartans

Spartans never had a skill injector, it took years of training to be a Spartan.

Thats because all other MMOs( that i know of) depend on the endgame. Those who reach the end game first and are able to grind the endgame content the longest always have a significant advantage over those that reach it later. Thus usually what happens is you fly through the older parts of the game as fast as possible to get to the endgame to try to keep up with all the vets.

In eve there is no endgame. And skills are a secondary factor. Personal skills and abilities far outweigh in game skills. But this is a hard concept to get use too. When i started back in 2008 at the encouragement of a friend i had in another MMO, he had to drill all this in my head. My impression was some of the players have been around 3 or 4 yrs already i will never catch up because their is no way to catch up.

He drilled in my head catching up was irrelevant. Being good at certain aspects of the game was far more important than being good at everything. That a 2 yr old well trained pilot can be as deadly as a 4 yr old trained pilot.

I dont know if injectors are going to help this cause, but i doubt it. I have seen instant content skipping features in other games that allow you to go from say level 1 to level 60 in a flash. While you can use the skills and gears of the high level, you didnt learn how to use any of it cause you instantly became able to use it. Which means for a good while, you still are terrible at the game because you technically didnt figure out how to play it.


Injectors are going to create noobs that can fly expensive ships but have no actual skill in fitting or using those ships so will be easy targets. The people who are going to benefit the most from this are likely to be people like me. tens of millions of SP and wanting to inject to be able to use a new doctrine ship or to expand what ships i have available to use in fleets.

Vets with high SP are going to see very little gain from injectors and noobs that shoot up are going to blowing ships up left and right because they never learn how to properly use ships or play the game before they get in expensive ships.

So it should be interesting to see.

Don't see those limitations being a good thing.


The fact the bazaar was started was a bad thing. But once it had there was no going back.

The new system is better than the bazaar.

Bought characters have a history, including the sale of the character which also often contains a link to that character's abilities. F1 driver buys a rickshaw and drives it around, letting you laugh at it and pelt it with tomatoes.
Then the F1 driver *poof* turns it into a Ferrari and runs you over with it.
When you realise there are hit and runs happening, the F1 driver sells the Ferrari after stripping the body off of it and then gets another rickshaw.

Soon, it isn't long before many F1 drivers are complaining that there is no one on the streets to run over.

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As to rookie drivers, they will come in, throw down some cash for a Ferrari, realise they can't drive it and quit.
Meanwhile F1 drivers will be quitting.

So the race track is going to be a whole lot more empty after some time.