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Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing
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Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-02-09 14:37:30 UTC
Vincent, you are correct. However PLEX prices in this situation will rise accordingly. Indeed, it's already happening Attention
Lasisha Mishi
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2016-02-09 14:38:46 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
At present prices of injectors and extractors: Eve is now Free to Play.

Train skill.
Buy extractor from the market, with ISK.
Fill extractor
Sell extractor.
Repeat 4 times a month
Result: Sufficient ISK profit to get a PLEX.

so an alternate way of getting plex

but..for the price of 2 extractors....your already half way to a plex.
and if you do it 4 times a month. the price of the extractors alone is more than a plex (4 extractors > 1 plex in price)

=/
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#23 - 2016-02-09 14:48:51 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
At present prices of injectors and extractors: Eve is now Free to Play.

Train skill.
Buy extractor from the market, with ISK.
Fill extractor
Sell extractor.
Repeat 4 times a month
Result: Sufficient ISK profit to get a PLEX.


So pretty much like any isk making activity in eve?

Except training skills is not really an "activity". You do not do anything to accumulate SP, it just happens. There is a small amount of activity to cycle the injectors, extractors, and set the skill in the queue, but as a ISK making "activity" its very low effort.

I predict this will not last. The demand for PLEX is greater than the demand for SP, and the prices will adjust to where a month worth of SP will be worth less than one PLEX, but the price of just the injectors, (a sufficient number to hold a month of SP) will be more than a PLEX.

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Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
#24 - 2016-02-09 14:52:24 UTC
EVE was also F2P using the character bazaar.

Buy PLEX to activate account
Train alt
Sell alt
Profit
Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#25 - 2016-02-09 14:53:16 UTC
Everyone seems to forget that you cannot extract SP from an alt until they are over 5.5million SPCool

It's going to take 3 months before we see more SP coming onto the market, after people have extracted unwanted skills in the first few days.

People will pay a premium for instant gratification. After the initial volatility, prices are going only one way: upward. For 3 months at least. Big smile
Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
#26 - 2016-02-09 15:00:21 UTC
Yeah, I know loads of people who want to make a 1 day old carrier alt. I think demand for injectors will be HUGE and will soon out-strip supply- which means a very high cost. Get em while they're cheap boys and girls!
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#27 - 2016-02-09 15:01:16 UTC
What a disaster this is turning into. So it appears CCP botched the prices up afterall.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#28 - 2016-02-09 15:01:56 UTC
If I was going to fund my account by selling SP, I'd milk my main, not an alt.
If a month of SP does cost more than a PLEX, people will SP farm on their high SP pilots, and the price will fall.

And Jita local is just going silly nuts.

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Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#29 - 2016-02-09 15:08:50 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:

If a month of SP does cost more than a PLEX, people will SP farm on their high SP pilots, and the price will fall.


If this happens, the demand for PLEX increases and the price goes up. People will use PLEX purely to farm SP to sell, increasing demand.

There is a direct correlation between the two things and they will be interdependent on one another. Big smile
Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-02-09 15:12:47 UTC
MARKET UPDATE:

Arrow Over 5000 Skill injectors have been traded on the Jita market in 3 hours
Arrow Average price is 678m ISK

Arrow Over 700 Skill injectors have been traded on the Amarr market in 3 hours
Arrow Average price is 708m ISK

Skill extractor prices are falling due to huge initial oversupply. Current Jita price of 306m.
Memphis Baas
#31 - 2016-02-09 15:21:27 UTC
What's the total extractor volume thus far? Trying to figure out how much $$ CCP got thus far.
Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#32 - 2016-02-09 15:23:03 UTC
Currently no live data on extractor volume. But it is HIGH. Thousands being bought and sold each hour.
Kalgeroth
Doomheim
#33 - 2016-02-09 15:37:36 UTC
MARKET UPDATE:

Arrow 6745 Skill Extractors traded through 2597 orders in Jita over last 3.5 hours
Arrow Average price of 318m ISK

No data yet for Amarr.

Prices of Skill Injectors currently on upward trajectory in Jita - sitting at 680m. Strong price resistance around the 650/660m mark and rising, supported by large buy-orders and bulk purchases.
Lasisha Mishi
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2016-02-09 15:37:46 UTC
i should point out that theres a considerable amount of hauling going from various Jita Markets to Amarr Markets where people are buying extractors/injectors low, and selling in the higher priced markets.

so some of these purchases are going back up for sale.

if anyone is up for some suicide ganking, its a potential trade of a 20mill+ stealth bomber for a 300mill extractor (even if game shows extractor's estimated price as 10 isk)
Princess Honneamise
#35 - 2016-02-09 16:06:22 UTC
i just wish to add a side note on 1000 Aurum tokens.

they are crashing from 627 M yesterday to 580 M at the moment .

1000 aur ( 580 M ) = 1 extractor ( 312 M )

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S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2016-02-09 16:24:31 UTC
Aptenodytes wrote:
Yeah, I know loads of people who want to make a 1 day old carrier alt.

I'm waiting for the first thread in GD from some new player who used injectors on their 1 day old character then welped a carrier (or bigger) ship.....it can't be long now. Lol
Abda
Doomheim
#37 - 2016-02-09 16:37:33 UTC
I was in dodixe, and they were going for 780M+ But, of course, not as fast.
Jack Theisant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2016-02-09 16:49:23 UTC
...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?

Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#39 - 2016-02-09 17:08:27 UTC
Jack Theisant wrote:
...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?

Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that.

Somewhere a Dev said you cannot go below 5.5 mil.

And yes, the market will adjust by both skill items prices and PLEX prices changing.

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Berrice Silf
Academy of the Imperial Guards
#40 - 2016-02-09 17:08:47 UTC
Jack Theisant wrote:
...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?

Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that.


5.5 mill will allow you to use 1 extractor but with the right setup and skill training on said alt you can relieve it of 500k every 8 days roughly