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Conflict Drivers in Null Sec
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Kuetlzelcoatl
#21 - 2016-02-07 10:50:14 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:
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7) It feels like no one read anything I wrote except about high sec - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills


Your points about Null Sec are kind of obvious and are not original.
Your points about Low Sec have been brought up many times and CCP has stated, "well, maybe if we had originally done that..".
Your points about Incursions are kind of naïve, and ignore the larger issue.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#22 - 2016-02-07 10:54:01 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:

1) no they can't drop caps - incursions are cyno jammed...they could blops drop however. Too bad for you.
3) you can beat the incursion in a day if you really wanted to instead of grinding for 7
5) I haven't seen CCP say one word about incursions - please link or provide evidence.

You can move caps via gates from adjacent low sec constellations into Incursion constellations, you can move them via wormholes into these incursions constellations, you could build them there during the incursion. Drop does not necessarily mean to use a cyno.

Yeah, sure, you can. Now tell me how many people have been running low sec incursions in the past, why they didn't do it, how many do it now and guess what is going to happen and why I said 7 days and not 1 day. Though, for all I care, CCP could remove Incursions entirely.

As far as I remember, it was mentioned as a side note in one of the recent o7 shows. I can't find the exact show right now.

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#23 - 2016-02-07 21:43:38 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Justin Cody wrote:

1) no they can't drop caps - incursions are cyno jammed...they could blops drop however. Too bad for you.
3) you can beat the incursion in a day if you really wanted to instead of grinding for 7
5) I haven't seen CCP say one word about incursions - please link or provide evidence.

You can move caps via gates from adjacent low sec constellations into Incursion constellations, you can move them via wormholes into these incursions constellations, you could build them there during the incursion. Drop does not necessarily mean to use a cyno.

Yeah, sure, you can. Now tell me how many people have been running low sec incursions in the past, why they didn't do it, how many do it now and guess what is going to happen and why I said 7 days and not 1 day. Though, for all I care, CCP could remove Incursions entirely.

As far as I remember, it was mentioned as a side note in one of the recent o7 shows. I can't find the exact show right now.


1) you can still leave the gate restrictions intact
2) if you move them in via wh's they still can't run the incursion
3) why would you build a cap there specifically? surely *because you can* isn't a good enough reason.
4) The risk and Reward ratio is way out of balance for incursions specifically in high sec - you have yet to adequately defend the counter position. "Because it works for me" isn't a defense.
5) High Sec Dwelling Sub-human robots don't do low sec incursions...because they're in low sec
6) Those that do low sec incursions finish them in good time so they can get the revenant bpc - and there are a number of people that do them when they show up in their territory from Shadow Cartel to Test Alliance.
7) If you had caps in there during the incursion you would have to move them out before it ended otherwise the weapons would be offlined - I shouldn't have to explain to you CCP's policy on caps in high sec.
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