EVE New Citizens Q&A

The one that makes the most sense is the Raven and pretty much everyone will tell you that. However if you like turrets there is no reason that you can not use the Rohk.

The reason for the raven is that with missiles you can change damage types which is nice for mission running. Also fit properly the Raven can hit as far out as it can target which has a hard limit of 225 KM. So with the MJD you can jump out past any incoming damage and launch your missiles. Then MJD back to the next accel gate for the next room.

Would this swing it for you?

I just assumed Sniping was a given with Battleships.. Brawling doesn't work so well, then agian, Brawling for a Battleship is like within 30km, haha!

For L4 missions specifically:

Cruise missiles can hit target sizes from battleship down to cruiser, with a target painter. Rails will require a webifier (maybe even 2), and blasters will require a mwd, and these modules have range or capacitor limitations that make them more difficult to use than a target painter.

Cruise missiles can cover the entire range from 2 km to 60 km that the NPCs prefer to orbit at, with the target painter having 40km+ range too. Again, rails and blasters require webifier and mwd, respectively.

Years ago, Caldari agent missions would send you against Guristas, but recently they changed the missions so you'll see any of the pirate factions, and also mercenaries and drones, so you NEED to be able to do EM or Explosive damage as much as you need Kinetic / Thermal.

So my recommendation would be Raven first, because of the advantages of cruise missiles. However, you're training for ALL (Caldari) battleships, so also train large hybrids, and you can give the Rokh a spin too, once you get bored of the easy-mode.

Marauders are typically brawlers.

I typically enter bastion at 20 km in my Vargur.

In comparison, my Raven hangs at 105 km.

Thank you very much for your suggestions guys, I guess I'll go for Raven first since it seems to be easier to play and then I'll eventually get Rokh.



Thanks for the offer but I already have a friend I'm going to do that with o/

While I realize that it is not a like for like exchange the sig radius bloom of the TP helps with tracking of turrets also.

I should add that my Vargur has a MWD, where my Raven only has an AB.

A tech-2 AB is fast enough to kite all but fast Minmatar battleships (NPC in a Machariel relative), but in all cases keeping moving dramatically reduces incoming damage.

The extreme range I use with Raven, 105 km [N.B. this was a long while ago, using T1 missiles], also means only battleships can really hit me.

NPC battlecruisers take 2 volleys to destroy, then NPC destroyers take one volley, then work on the battleships. NPC cruisers are the toughest, so I leave those for last, unless they are ECM jamming. I'm too lazy to use a target painter, plus I'd rather have that slot for something more useful. Light drones handle elite frigates that don't pop in one or two volleys.

Upon warp-in to mission: head to range. This sometimes means dragging the auto-agro group with you; this is about the only time you will take heavy damage. Once at 105 km, I even turn my hardeners off. I use a XL shield booster, and a heavy cap recharger (no other cap modules or rigs), and 3-reloads (15x 800 cap charges) plus the 5 in the module lasts about 4 missions; I typically have to change or get more cruise missiles before running-out of cap charges.

The trick is planning your kite path so that you are about halfway to the next gate when the room is half clear, and you arrive at the gate, just as you destroy the last NPC.

Oh, I never worry about triggers. However, I recommend EVE-Survival and only one triggerat a time until you are experienced.

TIP: Building cap charges at the mission station, or at least in the same system, saves the trouble of hauling them around. They are huge (pain to move) compared to the BPO and minerals (easy to move). In Amarr space, you will probably never need to make or buy cap charges, as NPC drop lots of them, unless you blitz and don't loot.

Rattlesnake.

They are cheap and at least IMO, completely OP for PvE. They are also gaining popularity in PvP.

Drones are very powerful right now, and because they are virtually a mandatory train- since most ships above destroyers use them to some degree- it's one of the best bang-for-your-buck skill trees. A move to primarily doing your PvE with drones is not a bad option to consider.
Since I suggest the Rattler, if you were to look for a stepping stone, I guess the Raven since it uses missiles. Rather than have to cross-train from gunnery to use the rails on a Rokh. But really- the Rattler is cheap enough to make it worth just getting into if you are in the market for a battleship any way.

Another option to consider is the T3 cruiser. The tank is so ridiculous on them that little PvE in null sec, much less any in high sec, will even scratch it. Might be slower to run because of lower DPS, but you'll shrug off full room aggro like it's a pillow fight. You won't need to blow a billion isk on a loot pinata just for high sec content either- so don't worry about feeding the trolls a bunch of Dedspace modules.

Raven is the best choice for missions. The rokh is a great BS.... if you want to hit someone at 200 plus KM. I would personally get a raven for now and then skill into a rattlesnake and if you are really serious about isk/hr on missions you could go with a marauder later on. However, if you are this serious about isk/hr, you have turned the game into a job and thus the best isk/hr would be to just get a(nother) job and buy and sell plexes. Far more isk for far less work.