EVE General Discussion

I'm happy with the prices, I though they would be 2000 but finally 800 if you are serious about it, that's perfect.

Guess I was too optimistic about 450 per, which would have lined up with 900 AUR for two.

Oh well.

How do you figure?

I thought skill queue online referred to people who kept subbed just to queue skills. They didn't want to drop the sub because that would stop training. Now if you're not playing, drop the subscription - you can always buy the SP if you decide to come back to the game.

They could have observed the situation from a distance on patch day, believe me; what are we going to do? Yell on the forums? Shoot monuments? Ragequit? "Observing" all these over the weekend or on Tuesday patch day, same difference.

The early announcement was more for our benefit: give us time to sleep on it and come to terms with the inevitable, during a weekend, so we don't have to deal with stress from work at the same time as this. Also, give all the speculators some time to prepare / take a day off on Tuesday, and information on which to base their market speculations immediately after the patch.

I along with every one else who plays eve would have been much happier with a very tiny price tag for the extractors. But looking at it from the reverse side. The higher the price the fewer toons will be insta-masteried.

Maybe the high price is a blessing in disguise. Or maybe it should just be highly taxed when sold via market contract or trade window. So that you can tweak your own toons for fairly little cost.

Confirming, CCP is not horse.

It is a constant everywhere....I am often shocked how often people do NOT want my money...and for some reason my wife encounters it more than I do.

I have an addendum:

You may deny that you will buy them...but you WILL buy them...lol

A real money sub gets you up to 1,944,000 SP/Month for less than the cost of a PLEX. A PLEX gets you the same at a higher real money rate but in game payable for someone else' real money. Both of these have 100% return on training regardless of current SP.

Injectors on the other hand mandate a portion of the cost in extractors. Considering the extractor cost alone comes to ~89% of the AUR value on a PLEX for converting at peak training rates per month over time you're looking at near PLEX cost equivalency. Note this is before ANY compensation for the actual SP content of the extractor. Essentially the sunk costs are close to that of a training cert for the same time. The SP itself would have to be sold at or under ~10% of the cost to create it via PLEX or training cert for it to be more cost effective then just buying game time via PLEX and training normally before even considering loss due to SP the character already has. Comparing it to a sub is a pure losing proposition at any SP price point. And since SQO is played AFK the time savings from injectors loses meaning.

Further the act of selling SP makes this a driver for training, not a detractor. Training SP is now worth more as passively accumulating a resource one can turn into a commodity for isk, something you aren't actively earning while playing skill queue online.

Compare that to time being completely unused and you have a character that's simply lacking compared to one that played SQO during a period of inactivity. Since combining the gains from passive training and injectors yields the highest SP over time when compared to either on top of the fact that injecting becomes less effective with existing training I don't see SQO going away or being devalued.

Looks like you actually won the contest in your own thread, congrats.

Maybe I'll stick around in Eve a little longer afterall and see how this plays out. I just hope CCP doesn't go soft and lowers the prices to satisfy the eager scrubs who're still waiting in line for the day Eve finally becomes F2P.