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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#61 - 2016-01-28 22:14:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Avvy wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Injecting someones SP into you is really unhealthy, you dont know to who it belonged to. Maybe it was even the 3rd or 4th user of that SP!

Dont be an SP junkie.



Unless it can effect your consciousness, I wouldn't worry too much, the next clone you would be cured.

But if they clone your mind and you have mental health problems? The future would not look so bright when You are Gallente and some Caldari nationalist will sell you some mental rootkit to brainwash you in the future and make you his spy.

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Avvy
Doomheim
#62 - 2016-01-28 22:24:22 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Avvy wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Injecting someones SP into you is really unhealthy, you dont know to who it belonged to. Maybe it was even the 3rd or 4th user of that SP!

Dont be an SP junkie.



Unless it can effect your consciousness, I wouldn't worry too much, the next clone you would be cured.

But if they clone your mind and you have mental health problems? The future would not look so bright when You are Gallente and some Caldari nationalist will sell you some mental rootkit to brainwash you in the future and make you his spy.



I had already started thinking about my last post.

Iirc the consciousness is transferred to the new clone at the moment of death. But what happens if the brain is damaged prior to the transfer. Lets hope they keep a backup.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2016-01-28 23:38:16 UTC
Varro Octavius wrote:
I'm so confused with this game, it's an mmorpg right? Different people from all different walks of life, all corners of the globe coming together to play this game.

I really wish I was in a better position in life @ 2004 when this game released but I was 16 with a clapped out PC that just about got me through school and college. I didn't have the spare cash at that age to replace it or even afford a sub to this game.

Guess what, life changes, and now I can. I have a machine that can run as many clients as I like.

So to the OP, glad you were in a nice position in life 10 years ago but some of us weren't, this option gives people a chance to catch up and MOST IMPORTANTLY it will bring more completion to the game.



I'm getting to be an old dude man, I'm in my early 50s so back in 2003 I was already set financially, Eve was the first MMO I tried and I have been hooked ever since, don't take what I'm looking into doing as a personal attack on newbs as it isnt.

I have nothing against you or anybody else who has started Eve later than I, I applaud anybody who can stick with this game for more than a few months from the start, it is a great challenge and allot of real time work to get competent in Eve.

What I'm against is CCPs new cash grab attempt by tempting players with purchasable SP, I personally feel that it is a way for players to indeed gain an (arguably a very small) advantage over other players that do not have the resources to do the same, if my understanding of this new feature is sound it would take a crazy amount of RL money to catch up to my lowest SP character so that I do not fear, what I fear is that this is a baby step in the direction of a full blown pay to win Eve online.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2016-01-28 23:47:42 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I've toyed with the idea of extracting tons of SP from my alts purely to inject them to me as the sp on my alts don't do any good (not that they do good on me either but you know... sp count)

/c


Chribba you been here for quite a long time and earned everything you have, including SP that's spread across your accounts, you are one of the very few players who gained my respect over the years so if you want to start trading SP to bolster one main more power too you, you have always received a free pass from me and always will, in my eyes you have done more good for Eve than most anybody else. o7

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2016-01-28 23:51:24 UTC
Revenant Kane wrote:
Alea wrote:
Bruce Kemp wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Silver linings and whatnot.
Think of all those PLEX fattened week old newbs flying around in their pimp fit battleships running level 2 and 3 missions.
Now, imagine if you will their mighty indignation at you swiping one of THEIR precious metal scraps.
Hilarity ensues, followed by buckets of tears.

This poses odd opportunities for preying on the stupid.

I for one look forward to dining on space veal.


^^ This Twisted


Most encounters would probably be by chance, I want to actively hunt them as a group or corp activity.


What Alea meant was...

"Alone? noway that is to scary"


Like everybody who plays Eve fights fair, I'm not gonna lie if I'm "solo" roaming I always have a links and logi alt close by just like everybody else does..

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2016-01-29 00:04:00 UTC
Thorian Baalnorn wrote:
Alea wrote:
This is not a recruitment post it's just a feeler.

Just curious, myself being a bitter vet who's jimmies are rustled hard core over SP injection who would want to add some content for the instant gratification kiddies after that feature is implemented.?

Either be via a dedicated corp or steal the idea of NPSI fleets and hunt with whomever wants to join a special fleet or maybe another way.? Not wanting to do a lame CODE type of venture something closer to real pvp, be it in HS, low or null.

Of course this all hinges on if CCP will keep SP injection hidden from other players, I personally feel SP injection needs to be reflected in a characters profile in one form or another, a form of shaming if you will.

Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them..


Personally, i think you should stop being bitter and take advantage of new features such as injection in the game.


I say you suck it up, stop being bitter, enjoy the game, and take advantage of the options presented to you.


There are quite a few days that I do indeed enjoy Eve, true I am bitter but I'm looking to rectify that.

Even if I wanted to trade my own SP to other characters it would do me no good, all the characters I use or have used is already at the levels they need to be, I now train junk skills as that's all that's left for them to train, I don't want to fly all races of everything or be able to manufacture everything but I'm training into them anyway because there is nothing left for them to do.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2016-01-29 00:07:19 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Why just shoot them...

... when you can take a trip to Huttaken (it's right next to Halaima), and write a Book of Truth about the need to have a Permit to inject skills into your brain, and then hire a bunch of "Followers" to run a nice extortion racket and make some money for yourself your non-profit organization named EDOC.


That sounds too much like CODE, I like to shoot stuff that can fight back which is strictly against CODE's code of conduct.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Paranoid Loyd
#68 - 2016-01-29 00:09:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Alea wrote:

There are quite a few days that I do indeed enjoy Eve, true I am bitter but I'm looking to rectify that.

Even if I wanted to trade my own SP to other characters it would do me no good, all the characters I use or have used is already at the levels they need to be, I now train junk skills as that's all that's left for them to train, I don't want to fly all races of everything or be able to manufacture everything but I'm training into them anyway because there is nothing left for them to do.

I haven't really come to a conclusion as to good or bad for the game, I tend to keep to the mentality that no matter how many SPs a pleb has, he will still be bad at the game. That being said based on this post, you should welcome the change as in theory you can now pull all those "pointless filler" SPs you have been training to get paid, then do something creative with those funds.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#69 - 2016-01-29 00:19:32 UTC
New player with a lot of bought SP and set in overconfidence mood, would be rather prone to making mistakes and choosing to fight the duel he should rather not choose.

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Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2016-01-29 00:20:33 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
Please OP, enough of the elitist claptrap. Attitudes like yours are the very reason this game has such a bad reputation and why it will forever be a minor niche player in the space/sci-fi MMO genre.

Also, post with your main since you apparently have such noble and high-minded ideals about how to play Eve the "right" and "honorable" way. Or are you just another blowhard hypocritical forum warrior vomiting your silly ideas all over the place? Put your isk where your mouth is.


I am not an elitist, well I don't feel that I am anyway, anybody who knows me in this game would say I'm more than fair, honest and very charitable.. What has brought me to this point is the idea of SP trading, I don't feel that is right for Eve, it's as simple as that.

I can't (won't) post with (any of) my main(s) as I could/would risk most everything that I have worked for in the past lotsa years, I resurrected this account about five or so years ago to forum whore for friends just starting out, she has no other use for me as she only has 4 or so mill SP.. No I will not be injecting SP into Alea as I don't need another useless character.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2016-01-29 00:23:44 UTC
Avvy wrote:
Nick Bete wrote:
Please OP, enough of the elitist claptrap. Attitudes like yours are the very reason this game has such a bad reputation and why it will forever be a minor niche player in the space/sci-fi MMO genre.

Also, post with your main since you apparently have such noble and high-minded ideals about how to play Eve the "right" and "honorable" way. Or are you just another blowhard hypocritical forum warrior vomiting your silly ideas all over the place? Put your isk where your mouth is.



I get a feeling the op is just trolling, especially as 'FEELER' was used at the end of the title.


Probably trying to stir like minded people (if there are any) into some kind of action.


Trolling no, stirring yes, if there are a good number of like minded people I will make this a reality.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2016-01-29 00:26:37 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alea wrote:
myself being a bitter vet who's jimmies are rustled hard core over SP injection


Alea wrote:
I'm a mature older dude




Why can't mature older dudes get rustled jimmies.? Did I miss out on a memo on that subject some years back.!?

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2016-01-29 00:29:24 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Can I have your SP when you kindly disembark?


Me..?? no..

It is no secret that once my boy is old enough to play Eve I will be selling off all my mains to him so he sort of inherits all my everything.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Avvy
Doomheim
#74 - 2016-01-29 00:34:19 UTC
Alea wrote:

What I'm against is CCPs new cash grab attempt by tempting players with purchasable SP, I personally feel that it is a way for players to indeed gain an (arguably a very small) advantage over other players that do not have the resources to do the same, if my understanding of this new feature is sound it would take a crazy amount of RL money to catch up to my lowest SP character so that I do not fear, what I fear is that this is a baby step in the direction of a full blown pay to win Eve online.


EVE has been selling PLEX for years as you must know. It isn't really any different, it's still a paid for advantage. In fact I believe it was CCPs PLEX that inspired GW2s gem system.

I remember more people complaining about in-game shops items for sale and saying similar things to what you are if people buy them.

The fact is those numbers of people complaining have been considerably reduced over the years. As more and more MMOs do variations of selling items and in-game currency. The companies have realised that players will spend money on in-game items and CCP know that sp trading will make them more.

I've played about 11 MMOs, it sounds like you mainly played this one and if that is the case then I can understand where your reasoning is coming from. But the fact is you are a few years too late and the sort of tactics you are thinking about did not work.

CCP was quick enough with PLEX, but they've been dragging their heels on other potential cash making in-game ventures.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#75 - 2016-01-29 00:37:21 UTC
Alea wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Can I have your SP when you kindly disembark?


Me..?? no..

It is no secret that once my boy is old enough to play Eve I will be selling off all my mains to him so he sort of inherits all my everything.


why would sell your stuff to your boy? Shocked

id rather ccp try and make additional money than go bust and if they can make some money this way then i don see the issue, plex and bazaar has been around for a llong time, i just hope they introduce name changes next

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2016-01-29 00:50:16 UTC
Avvy wrote:
Alea wrote:

What I'm against is CCPs new cash grab attempt by tempting players with purchasable SP, I personally feel that it is a way for players to indeed gain an (arguably a very small) advantage over other players that do not have the resources to do the same, if my understanding of this new feature is sound it would take a crazy amount of RL money to catch up to my lowest SP character so that I do not fear, what I fear is that this is a baby step in the direction of a full blown pay to win Eve online.


EVE has been selling PLEX for years as you must know. It isn't really any different, it's still a paid for advantage. In fact I believe it was CCPs PLEX that inspired GW2s gem system.

I remember more people complaining about in-game shops items for sale and saying similar things to what you are if people buy them.

The fact is those numbers of people complaining have been considerably reduced over the years. As more and more MMOs do variations of selling items and in-game currency. The companies have realised that players will spend money on in-game items and CCP know that sp trading will make them more.

I've played about 11 MMOs, it sounds like you mainly played this one and if that is the case then I can understand where your reasoning is coming from. But the fact is you are a few years too late and the sort of tactics you are thinking about did not work.

CCP was quick enough with PLEX, but they've been dragging their heels on other potential cash making in-game ventures.




I have to admit I was completely against PLEX, but now I have a collection of it and have played for free almost form it's arrival, so it is true I could change my mind about SP trading but I doubt it.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Paranoid Loyd
#77 - 2016-01-29 00:55:35 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Alea wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Can I have your SP when you kindly disembark?


Me..?? no..

It is no secret that once my boy is old enough to play Eve I will be selling off all my mains to him so he sort of inherits all my everything.


why would sell your stuff to your boy? Shocked
Because it's technically against the EULA to just give it to him as that would be account sharing.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#78 - 2016-01-29 00:56:49 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
Couldn't care less

Thank you. So rare: actually used the phrase correctly. Big smile

If you "can care less", then you must care some amount.

/rant
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2016-01-29 01:08:09 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Alea wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Can I have your SP when you kindly disembark?


Me..?? no..

It is no secret that once my boy is old enough to play Eve I will be selling off all my mains to him so he sort of inherits all my everything.


why would sell your stuff to your boy? Shocked

id rather ccp try and make additional money than go bust and if they can make some money this way then i don see the issue, plex and bazaar has been around for a llong time, i just hope they introduce name changes next


CCP will make ISK from character transfer fees, it makes more sense to use what I already have instead of buying new.. Plus they hold sentimental value to me as I had most of them since 2003 to 2005, and he wants them as they are his daddies.

I would welcome name changes, as long as the old name is reflected in some sort of history like employments are.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#80 - 2016-01-29 01:12:16 UTC
I wonder if anybody will ever get ransomed for SP.

Just thinking out loud, but have not yet reviewed the mechanics and procedures around it (stuck in RL boring grownup stuff)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!