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solo pilot and pos!

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Luthor Ikkala
Snow Moon City
Fraternity.
#1 - 2016-01-27 17:53:21 UTC
So as the title says. Can I own a pos as a solo pilot? I've read from somewhere that you can only have a pos if you are in a corp.
I have been toying with the idea of having my own refinery and some building where I can do manufacturing and some research.
Not sure if its worth it but you'll never know until you try it!
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-01-27 17:58:25 UTC
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
So as the title says. Can I own a pos as a solo pilot? I've read from somewhere that you can only have a pos if you are in a corp.


Only a player corp can deploy a POS. You can, however, make your own player corp.

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I have been toying with the idea of having my own refinery and some building where I can do manufacturing and some research.
Not sure if its worth it but you'll never know until you try it!


No, there's math for that. If you're not sure if it's worth it, then I can almost promise it won't be, as you haven't done the math.

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Luthor Ikkala
Snow Moon City
Fraternity.
#3 - 2016-01-27 18:38:19 UTC
Thx for the reply! That's just what I was afraid of. Only thing I'm worried is someone wardecking me high sec while I'm hauling my stuff to be sold. Have to do some math. Is the fuel so expensive that its not worth trying with small tower for example?
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#4 - 2016-01-27 18:39:20 UTC
You can easily create your own corporation and then build a POS. A small POS will cost roughly 200 million plus or minus depending on how you configure it. You will have an ongoing expense for fuel and charters. The main benefit will be a time efficiency bonus for research, invention and manufacturing - it isn't much cheaper to build at a POS but it is a lot faster. You need several characters and a well established business before it becomes a worthwhile investment.

A POS is vulnerable if someone declares war on you - best option is to cancel jobs, take the POS down and store it in a station until the war is over - which can be expensive.

Some people only use a POS for reprocessing or compressing ore. In this case it can be anchored when you need it and stored in a station when it isn't being used - finding an empty moon usually isn't a problem unless you are close to a major trade hub.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2016-01-27 19:05:13 UTC
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Thx for the reply! That's just what I was afraid of. Only thing I'm worried is someone wardecking me high sec while I'm hauling my stuff to be sold. Have to do some math. Is the fuel so expensive that its not worth trying with small tower for example?

I have a large tower. It costs roughly 450m / month. A medium would be half that, and a small is a quarter.

I have my own alliance.
Graz man
Southern Cross Mining
#6 - 2016-01-28 06:02:38 UTC
Do Little wrote:
You can easily create your own corporation and then build a POS. A small POS will cost roughly 200 million plus or minus depending on how you configure it. You will have an ongoing expense for fuel and charters. The main benefit will be a time efficiency bonus for research, invention and manufacturing - it isn't much cheaper to build at a POS but it is a lot faster. You need several characters and a well established business before it becomes a worthwhile investment.

A POS is vulnerable if someone declares war on you - best option is to cancel jobs, take the POS down and store it in a station until the war is over - which can be expensive.

Some people only use a POS for reprocessing or compressing ore. In this case it can be anchored when you need it and stored in a station when it isn't being used - finding an empty moon usually isn't a problem unless you are close to a major trade hub.




how much better is it to reprocess at a POS then a station?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2016-01-28 06:20:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
Graz man wrote:
how much better is it to reprocess at a POS then a station?


Better. The details are here.

2% better in high; 4% better in low. More at an outpost but that's outside the scope of the conversation.

Edit because of math fail. Leaving it in as a demonstration of how not to calculate things.

Proper numbers:

At best, an NPC station gives you a 50% base. A reprocessing array gives 52% base, which is actually a 4% increase in yield. An intensive array gives a 54% base, so 8% better than a 50% station or 3.85% better than a normal array. The drawback, of course, is that intensive arrays can only be anchored in 0.4 or lower.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#8 - 2016-01-28 06:27:10 UTC
It really depends on what you're doing with said POS that determines the economic viability of it. i can't find you on the killboards, so I have no idea what you fly/do.

that said, don't get discouraged. if your wallet can stand the inevitable loss, grab a small POS and a few basic mods and fire it up in some 0.0 backwater or even in a wormhole. live in it for a couple of weeks and see how you get on. vast swathes of 0.0 space is fairly deserted. if you can fly a T2 cloaky hauler, there's a galaxy of 'up to cruiser sized' opportunity out there.

protip: leave the 'blingy' toys in a station until you get a better feel for what you're up to.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#9 - 2016-01-29 21:40:18 UTC
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Thx for the reply! That's just what I was afraid of. Only thing I'm worried is someone wardecking me high sec while I'm hauling my stuff to be sold. Have to do some math. Is the fuel so expensive that its not worth trying with small tower for example?


My experience after having a solo-POS for 2+ years: No-one cared, I had like two wardecs in that time.

Do you want to know what happened during those two dangerous wars?

1. First war: Happened during a time where I wasn't playing. I logged in a month after the wardec had expired. My POS had run out of fuel weeks ago and all my stuff was floating in space, completely unharmed. No-one ever bothered with tracking down my POS.

2. Second war: I was actually playing during this time and got a little bit excited. I pulled down everything expensive, pulled out all the weapons and e-war I had stored for this and even collected a couple corps who wanted to join the war on my side. Nothing happened in my boring neck of the woods, again.

Still, my side collected more kills and I consider the second war a victory.

Anyway, my point is you don't need to fear wardecs. Just put your POS somewhere not blindingly obvious and move most of your stuff with courier contracts instead of yourself. If you're nervous about this, just store your important stuff in a NPC-station during the war, invite some defenders (there are always PVP-hungry people who will jump to your defence just to get more targets) and relax.

Hell, if you have a jump clone close to Jita, you can just buy and sell what you need completely normally during your war. It's not like your enemies can pry open that door in your quarters, after all. P
Fat Buddah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-02-01 06:07:51 UTC
As other said, don't worry too much about being wardecced.
Unless the war started specifically for the moon you are occupying, you have very little to worry about.
Just keep low profile during wars. You don't want to be an 'interesting target' worthy of consulting a locator agent.

Also, an offlined lab is an invitation for a wardec. (hmm. let's see if a bpo pops out)



ZmajOgnjeniVuk
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-10 18:32:22 UTC
I've set up a solo pos in hisec for small-scale industry. While it wasn't at all hard or anything, it was just tedious dealing with HS Wardecs/Fueling when you're all over New Eden.

Definitely something that's doable as a solo player.
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-02-21 21:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzz Orti
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Thx for the reply! That's just what I was afraid of. Only thing I'm worried is someone wardecking me high sec while I'm hauling my stuff to be sold. Have to do some math. Is the fuel so expensive that its not worth trying with small tower for example?

I have a large tower. It costs roughly 450m / month. A medium would be half that, and a small is a quarter.

I have my own alliance.
You never told me you had your own alliance.
I am testing a new POS for manufacture and found out about research after buying the basic initial "Control Tower , small" required to make the Player-Owned Starbase (POS).

Edit:
I made my own new corp. (2nd or 3rd corp actually now though).

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2016-02-22 11:04:54 UTC
Hi. As someone that's done some wardeccing and POS suppression, I will hit you if I believe you have serious loot in the POS.

If I see a Hyasoda Lab, I'll assume there's expensive BPOs and/or lots of datacores.

If I see an assembly array for T2 ships AND component assembly arrays, I'll assume you are building marauders. That's my #1 sign that this is a profitable target. I've never been in one of those kills, but I did help someone liquidate the 25 billion they looted from a lowsec marauder building POS. The drops included more than a freighter load of the Caldari version of Crystalline Carbonide Armor Plates alone (think that was 14b worth then).


If, on the other hand, I see a non-faction tower, a couple defensive modules, an equipment assembly array, a drone assembly array, and a non-Hyasoda research lab - I'll assume you have between 200m and 3b in loot in the POS and so it's not a tempting target.

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