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This doesn't seem particularly exciting. Personally I'd rather see more spaceships and additional pve content.

Actually I think it is exciting from both a game perspective and a real life perspective. By doing this you contribute to a real life science database which is used by scientist to tackle diseases. From a game perspective, you will see more spaceships. Since it has been released on SiSi I have made 50M ISK and 250K SoE LP. With that I can buy a stratios, or a few Astero's. Or just convert it to ISK and buy spaceships with it! All the while this can be done anywhere. Waiting for a fleet to form? Play Project Discovery! Mining away in highsec? Play Project Discovery!

I agree that from a face up view it is not a spaceship that you can fly. But it will give every player that has to wait 10-15 minutes an additional ISK/LP boost which will allow them to fly more spaceships :)

I think that is a very good thing indeed

To each their own. Additional pve content sounds very boring to me but I understand that some would enjoy it.

Because they probably will not touch opportunities again (as they barely have) because that would require some big work to fix them and intersect them again with the content of what career agents alongside Aura had to offer.
Opportunities are flat out broken, and I rather have CCP use a specific tutorial until they decide to axe through them instead of poking Opportunities with a stick randomly.

I hope the feedback that players are giving here about Project Discovery will provide that "minigame" to become good and useful, especially since it is tied to science.
Because if CCP slacks here, they might be held accountable for diluting the database with wrong information. Just a thought c:

What i have understood from the game is that the only thing we should look for is the green in each category, the proteins.

The goal is to match the sample image on the left with the options on the right.
The sample image contain more than one cell, so when selecting the options on the right, it is possible that the cells in the sample image may differ from each other.

My exclusion method was as such.

Nucleus:

In some samples the protein in the nucleus could differ much from other sample images. Some nucleus were green (assuming this means they had many protein), and some were blue (contained less protein. (Assuming).).

When excluding the options for nucleus (9 options), thanks to this blue or green properties, i could narrow down the options much better. in most images instantly several options were excluded.

Cytoplasm:

The exclusion method was much harder here, there are too many options and to many cells to compare.
A image with 8 cells, and 13 options to look at, makes this part of the identification much harder.
(some cells look alike and sometimes you don't have all 13 options)

In my opinion the researchers or someone that have previously worked with this part of the reserch need to explain little more about their experiences.

Maybe there are other method that i don't know of, i'm certain people that have done this job have many small tips that can help me.

Which parts are easy and which are very hard?
Is it possible, for example, to identify Nucleus in just seconds?
How long does it take for a researcher to do same thing?
When should i use the the other coloring options?
Why should i change the coloring?

When doing the tutorial i failed most of the samples.

Could be fun to develop an algorithm that does this. Isolate the parameters that makes a protein "normal".

I think it only fair to make a humble request given my time to assist with this awesome project, and the results that will help everyone. As Jane McGonigal states something very similar in her TedTalks video. Link: http://janemcgonigal.com/

Can my earned LP be traded in for a SoE Guardian SKin? I'm sure I'll be pushing my luck to get the "nee naw!!" sound effect. But hey, totes worth a try.

+1 for doing this project.

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While I do share your sentiment towards big pharma corporations (or big corporations in general), I don't see big moral issues in this case:

1.)
Human Protein Atlas: "The publication and/or presentation are solely for informational and non-commercial purposes."

I'd rather help an open, public project than see a private owned, commercial company withholding their research.

2.)
We don't actually "kill jobs" by doing this. As far as I understand, scientists are only recently working with this massive amount of data. We are talking about 13 Mil images. It's not a "trend to reduce real workers" because in the past nobody was doing this kind of work in this massive dimensions. It's also stated that categorizing those images is nothing a Computer farm can do easily, so we not even "help to cut the costs" on this side.

According to wikipedia "Citizen Science" isn't even a "new trend" and reading through the article I'd say projects like this actually help to make research more open and less dependent on universities/government/companies...


I, obviously, assume that MMOS and Protein Atlas don't lie about their intentions.




Sure, but exactly that is the problem :) It's a lot harder for a Computer to see those patterns than it is for a human with a bit of exercise.



I'm looking forward to this! Having such projects as (optional) minigames instead of the hacking minigame would be cool!

For the less intellectual of us (me) what, in idiot terms, do I need to do to participate when it is up and running.

I am not interesed in the reward part, just willing to do my bit for science.

Great work, CCP.