EVE General Discussion

The vast majority of people using these ships (WH dwellers) would never scan with them, even if they did have another high slot. It's much more efficient to use a bonused ship to scan out your chain quickly, bookmark all the relevant sites, and return in your mining ship.

The only time you really "need" an extra high is when daytripping, because it's annoying to drag two ships around while you are looking for wormholes. But you can get around this with a mobile depot, or even just swapping mods in a station (which you should have pretty easy access to when daytripping). In fact, carrying a mobile depot and probe launcher is just good practice in WH space for ANY ship that can't fit a launcher, on the off chance that your hole closes and you get stuck.


Not great. Sleepers will just volley through reps so you ought to fit buffer instead. Nanos would be better than overdrives because they improve your align time as well as your speed - the best defense is not getting caught in the first place. And if you must get caught it would help to have warp stabs (the penalties don't matter as your optimal is only 1.5km with gas harvesters anyway).

Something like this:

[Prospect, WH Miner]
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
5MN Microwarpdrive II

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Yes it is. I've made the majority of my ISK gas mining for a while now. The most efficient way (assuming you are starting in HS) is to scan down five or six holes in a chain, bookmark all the sites (you would do this anyway, because you want to know who is next door to the site you're running, right?), then come back and harvest all the gas. Assuming you don't want to kill the sleepers, having the expanded ore hold means you can huff a lot of sites before going back to HS. Now let's assume you want to scan with your prospect. No big deal. The cargo hold was expanded from that of a venture for a reason. Carry a depot and refit from a probe launcher to gas harvester ONCE, after you have scanned every site in those five or six connected wormholes. The needed use of a mobile depot is by design, because a covert ops frigate that could scan/mine/fit a cyno/etc without the risk of being caught sitting on a depot is a bit too powerful.

Thinking about time, say it takes you 3-4 minutes to scan down each WH, so you spend 20-30 minutes scanning five WHs, you end up with a dozen gas sites, that's a few hours of non-stop gas mining, even assuming you don't kill the sleepers. And again, you only need to wait the minute for the depot to online once in that three and a half hour gas mining expedition. Working as intended.



I would put 2 stabs and 2 nanofibers in the lows, swap a shield booster for an afterburner, and put polycarbon engine housings in the rigs. You really don't need a tank, if you get caught, you're basically dead if you can't warp out right away. Sleepers always spawn at least 60kish away from the clouds, so assuming you are paying attention, you should never be surprised by sleepers. Warp to the clouds cloaked, if there aren't any there, start mining and get out when they show up.

Duel prop will save your life for the rare time you get scrammed by someone who decloaked close to you.

In my close to a year of gas mining in WHs, I have (knock on wood) never lost a prospect. It is a specialized ship, and it does its job very well ATM.

Even if you don't probe with it, carry a depot and a probe launcher anyway, since you will get stuck sooner or later.

This is 100% my opinion, but gas harvesting is significantly more profitable than exploration, so it needs that slight nerf.

Remiel, you come up in a lot of threads, advocating knowing the game before posting, while simultaneously spouting ignorant nonsense. Just this week you've said that HIC tanks are vastly inferior to HAC tanks, and now that sensor strength plays no role in how easy it is to scan you. Both are embarrassing. Just leave a thread alone if it isn't your strong point.

As to the super whiny OP and his all-cap tirades: he may have a point. Does using a depot to constantly swap out gas-huffers and probe launchers add to gameplay, or just reduce quality of life?

I don't know, I've not flown a Prospect, but it seems a valid question. What is added by forcing people to scan the sites, then safe up, swap probes for a huffer, and go back? Is the 60 second deploy time enough to get any prospectors in the act, or does it just consume time.

Can someone with actual experience answer, please?

Interesting. The site in the video is an instrumental core reservoir and only has battleships so I imagine it's the only site where that would work. It's also by far the most lucrative site though...not a bad idea.

Might be able to accomplish the same thing with purgers. Either way you wouldn't use ASB.

I defer to the wormholer's expertise then.

And when I've been wrong and corrected, I've deferred to that correction, and to people who know more than me, until I've had a chance to check the facts out myself. I don't advocate 'knowing the game before posting', I advocate learning. If someone doesn't know the game before posting, and someone offers them a correction, I advocate them learning from it. Why is this so hard to understand? There's nothing wrong with being wrong, there is something wrong with being unable to accept you are wrong when demonstrated to be so and learning nothing from the experience.

So thanks, but I'll continue to post based on what I know about the game. And when I'm wrong, people will call me out on it, and I'll learn something as a result, making me better and even more knowledgeable in the process.

Game already has that. His name is Chribba.

Well yeah, if you're already in the wormhole you want to scan why not hop into a ship thats better at scanning first. But when you're in high sec this becomes an even bigger waste of time then using a mobile depot.

Even if the Prospect had a high slot where you could put both a probe launcher and a covert ops cloak. People in a wormhole would still use a dedicated scanning ship to map out anomalies.

So that's irrelevant.

I don't understand, I thought high sec residents were supposed to enjoy 100% of the benefits of low/null/WH play with none of the nasty downsides?