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Doing lvl 4 missions and making isk...

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Alexander DeGroot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-14 18:57:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexander DeGroot
Ok easily doing lvl 4 missions in a domi, semi afk really, and salvaging afterwards in a noctis, now it doesn;t feel like I make much from salvaging, so I wanted to ask do people refine all items to make up the isk? and ifso what lvl of refining does one need to be able to adequately do that

Basically I want to make about 1bill isk a month, 400 for plex and 600 for fun :D maybe thats too optimistic im not sure.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-12-14 19:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
Other ppl salvage and loot, but when I run normal missions I usually do not. My reasoning is that I get more from the time / effort by simply moving on to the next mission. Sleeper sites, anomalies, sigs ... I always loot / salvage those.

If you're fine with lvl4 missions and locked into income earning you might want to look at more efficient income streams such as incursions or low-end w-space.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#3 - 2011-12-14 20:23:19 UTC
You'll want to sort your loot into two piles: one to sell and one to refine. Refining is best if you train it up to have no losses...that can take some time. Selling is best done not as a market order, but by listing it at the sell price and waiting for someone to bite (you'll want to haul the stuff to a hub first). That can take some time. You'll also want to find the best places to mission from to maximize the value of your LP. That takes more time. You'll likely need to start accumulating tags and such. That also takes some time.
Most folks will tell you that no matter how you do it, missioning is not the way to make big ISK. All those people have found other ways. For me missioning is a nice diversion, and I do make it pay, but it doesn't pay big. I make my ISK by trading and typically make enough in a month to pay for my game time and buy anything I want while seeing my savings build. Others blitz and maximize their LP conversions (I hear this is especially lucurative with level 5 missions). Others do industrial work.
So, can you mission and make 1B a month. Probably. How much time would it take? Don't know.
Alexander DeGroot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-14 20:25:51 UTC
Thanks for the replys guys, appreciate it, though not really sure what these incursions are or the low sec stuff.
CeneUJiti
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-12-14 20:44:14 UTC
Get your gun, tank and drone skills up. You can't blitz much in a Domi but you can still do better than looting and salvaging. Especially if your mission system gets a ninja infestation. If you have maraduer or 2nd account you can loot and salvage on the fly.

To clarify. At certain level of SP you earn more money by doing the next mission for bounties and LP then looting and salvaging the previous one. For young characters sure, get Ore indie to 4 and loot and salvage all good missions.

You are looking at 15-25 hours of work every month for that billion; and that is with decent (not outstanding) ISK/LP ratio. If you want more you have to go for CNR/Golem or Paladin/Nightmare, or a Tengu.

Note, if you do your homework you will find out there are some pretty hard limits to how much can you earn in a month. Its a lot past 1Bill, but its there.
Alexander DeGroot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-12-14 20:46:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexander DeGroot
CeneUJiti wrote:
Get your gun, tank and drone skills up. You can't blitz much in a Domi but you can still do better than looting and salvaging. Especially if your mission system gets a ninja infestation. If you have maraduer or 2nd account you can loot and salvage on the fly.

To clarify. At certain level of SP you earn more money by doing the next mission for bounties and LP then looting and salvaging the previous one. For young characters sure, get Ore indie to 4 and loot and salvage all good missions.

You are looking at 15-25 hours of work every month for that billion; and that is with decent (not outstanding) ISK/LP ratio. If you want more you have to go for CNR/Golem or Paladin/Nightmare, or a Tengu.

Note, if you do your homework you will find out there are some pretty hard limits to how much can you earn in a month. Its a lot past 1Bill, but its there.


Heya, well i got teh 2 ogres maxed just finishing off drone I to 5 and basically why i am semi afking lvl 4, my alt is about to finish exhumers to 3 to get a hulk... and work is what im willing to do :D im a returning vet, but never did the isk making way before was just about pvp then, but im old now lol

I have one more question how do I turn LP into isks?
Flakey Foont
#7 - 2011-12-14 22:04:19 UTC
You will not make much semi-afking in a Domi. You have to do missions fairly quickly to really make isk. I can do up to 10 an hour in a Mach.

As for salvage, I only do BS.
Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Venture
#8 - 2011-12-14 23:39:48 UTC
I'm flying a drake with about 2 months worth of skills, I find that on average 10,000m3 of salvage nets me around 100mil just squick selling, then I sell level 3 implants and stuff for a little extra isk, I've only played for about 15 days out of the 30 and over the course of this month a made enough to buy a raven, fit and insure, and then lose it to a ninja salvager :/ , and also make enough money for a plex and my isk making methods are far from optimal as you can see.

There's no reason why you can't make a billion a month if you play every day and be more efficient.

everefinery is a good addon that will quickly tell you whether to sell or refine your items.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#9 - 2011-12-15 01:40:11 UTC
Depends, in highsec I rarely salvage anything but blood raider missions, and even the the plates are meh these days.

In lowsec I was doing FW missions, and I was blitzing those, but I would salvage FW plexes since you might as well unless you are speed tanking the plex, and the tags were nice and valuable. Unless it is a salvage plex I rarely worry about looting or salvaging in an exploration plex, I generally just want whatever the overseer has or whatever is in the can you have to hack.

In nullsec I almost always bring my noctis out, I always need more salvage and mods to reprocess. Also if you don't loot the tags, the bulk of the missions pay very little. Someday I tell myself I will buy a JF and be done with it, but old habits die hard. I would almost certainly make more from just blitzing for LP and selling slave sets.
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
#10 - 2011-12-15 03:02:39 UTC
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
I'm flying a drake with about 2 monthsworth of skills, I find that on average 10,000m3 of salvage nets me around 100mil just squick selling, then I sell level 3 implants and stuff for a little extra isk, I've only played for about 15 days out of the 30 and over the course of this month a made enough to buy a raven, fit and insure, and then lose it to a ninja salvager :/ , and also make enough money for a plex and my isk making methods are far from optimal as you can see.

There's no reason why you can't make a billion a month if you play every day and be more efficient.

everefinery is a good addon that will quickly tell you whether to sell or refine your items.



Am I the only one who is confused by this? =P
Caitlynn Askyra
Unity Venture
#11 - 2011-12-15 03:27:09 UTC
Korvus Falek wrote:
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
I'm flying a drake with about 2 monthsworth of skills, I find that on average 10,000m3 of salvage nets me around 100mil just squick selling, then I sell level 3 implants and stuff for a little extra isk, I've only played for about 15 days out of the 30 and over the course of this month a made enough to buy a raven, fit and insure, and then lose it to a ninja salvager :/ , and also make enough money for a plex and my isk making methods are far from optimal as you can see.

There's no reason why you can't make a billion a month if you play every day and be more efficient.

everefinery is a good addon that will quickly tell you whether to sell or refine your items.



Am I the only one who is confused by this? =P



The OP said he wanted to make around a billion a month level 4 mission running, I was just saying I don't have many skill points and I'm really inefficient at maxmizing my isk and still made around 600 mill this month, I'm just pointing out he could easily achieve what he wants to with more attention to detail, and I assume he has a lot more skillpoints than me so will be a loot quicker at clearing missions.

I have about 4 mill skillpoints, and have only been training skills for a 2 month period in total because I just stopped playing for half a year ages ago, is that confusing?
Forroden
Halcyon Front
#12 - 2011-12-15 05:46:27 UTC
I normally loot and salvage on the fly, Golem is pretty good for it, and with the new (well maybe new to me, I've been gone a while) T2 tractors it goes much more quickly it seems. The other day for a laugh I decided to see what my massive mound of loot could be put to use as and found I could make a freighter from it. Probably not the greatest story, but it does add up a bit over time if you loot while you kill.
ObieWan Kenobieie
Galactic Masonry MGZ
#13 - 2011-12-15 08:53:29 UTC
My main characters live in 0.0 full time. My profession of exploration was netting me 2-3 billion per week (at the time), using 2 fairly low skill point characters. I no longer have the time to commit to exploration.

From that I bought ObieWan and skilled him into a perfect Marauder Paladin with Marauder Level 5. Perfect Gunnery skills.
ObieWan was to be my distraction when I just wanted to escape 0.0 life for a bit and do something different.

I missioned in a Faction Armageddon and loved it, with faction mods the scorch fire rate was very sexy. i was missioning one night and let a corpmate salvage my wrecks. He said he cleared 100million that night just following me. That surprised me.

So I bought a Paladin and trained up salvaging to level 5. I started salvaging as I went and then noticed that I was pulling about a billion a week if I had the time/interest to log in and play.

What I found out was, it seemed the isk came 60 percent from bounty and 40 percent from loot/salvage. The Paladin allowed me to kill and loot at the same time, something not possible with the faction Armageddon. I had more fun with the Faction Armadgeddon cause i fit it with a dps tank meaning it had basically no tank at all.
Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-17 00:01:32 UTC
To make 1 bil/month you need to make just over 33 mil per day. Not all that hard.
Archangels Lucifer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-12-17 02:20:39 UTC
Darcel Black wrote:
To make 1 bil/month you need to make just over 33 mil per day. Not all that hard.



Depend on his SP actually, and also his L4 Faction, and amount of time played.
If hes doing for Gallent, and keep getting angel mish, well.......he wont make it far. I'm doing for Gallent, and I'm bearly getting by with 25m a day just sitting in the afk dominix.

to OP:
Train another race ship like cald for missile, it'll help u do mish faster. Also if ur flying dominix, expect around 1-3 hour per mish on gallent space, and ninjia salvg.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#16 - 2011-12-17 07:03:50 UTC
Archangels Lucifer wrote:
If hes doing for Gallent, and keep getting angel mish, well.......he wont make it far. I'm doing for Gallent, and I'm bearly getting by with 25m a day just sitting in the afk dominix.

to OP:
Train another race ship like cald for missile, it'll help u do mish faster. Also if ur flying dominix, expect around 1-3 hour per mish on gallent space, and ninjia salvg.


Maybe you should try flying that Dominix a bit more actively? Because it can definitely perform better than that.
Tyroch Jovakko
Auream Regulam
#17 - 2011-12-17 15:16:13 UTC
You say you have an alt? Put that alt in the noctis and have them follow you and loot/salvage. Play a bit more actively and you salvage ship will earn you more ISK cleaning up after your mission wrecks than a hulk would mining in high-sec while you do your missions.

About once a week I sort through my space garbage and sell the valuable stuff and refine the rest.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#18 - 2011-12-17 15:28:03 UTC  |  Edited by: FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
I have a CNR which I use to run Lvl 4s and easily make a bill a week from playing about 10-15 hours. An hour a day should be more then enough to get a bill a month.

The reward, salvage and LP numbers seem a bit off from what I get. Mission rewards will never go much over 4 million total and that's pretty damn good. Salvage would generally give me between 20-40 million on high level 4s. LP conversion at the moment for me is around 400-700 LP to Isk.

Salvage wise melt pretty much all Meta 1-2s and play around with 3 and 4s on the market.

LP conversion is down to you, no one is gonna give away what they sell as it will eat in to there earnings.

Find a good 0.5-0.6 with a few lvl4 agents and run 2 missions at a time. Last few nights I get about 100-150 million for around 2-3 hours work in my CNR followed up with a Noctis.

Last bit of advice don't sell minerals and keep an eye on the market you can make a lot this new years ;)
Flakey Foont
#19 - 2011-12-17 16:06:17 UTC
I still don't understand how OP would think you can semi-afk and make money....

Doesn't work that way in EVE or RL.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#20 - 2011-12-17 16:38:33 UTC
About your loot, You can sort them by meta levels in your asset window. Separate all your meta4 items to sell and refine the rest. Will save u a lot of isk.
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