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New Drifter discovery

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Ghelisis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-16 19:19:40 UTC
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I've been away for quite some time, studying the Drifter threat, and I think I may have found a crucial piece of information. We all know that the propulsion system on the Drifter craft somehow interacts with the fabric of space-time somehow, and those rods are key. They are very likely the engine of the craft.

This is not the point of why I'm coming to post though. I BELIEVE that those rods aren't the only thing that manipulates space-time, the ENTIRE SHIP is slightly out-of-phase with our normal timeframe. This I believe is where that second shield layer comes from; space-time masking the ship from our weapons, and computer-guided focus-firing them at a certain point weakens that protection, then our computer systems just exploit that hole so we can destroy it.

I tested this once in my normal system. I took a small frigate right up to one of them, and I passed right through it. They are not actually "Here", until you get rid of that space-time shield. Their weapons are affected by this as well. I believe those turrets are INSANELY powerful, but the space-time distortion tempers them off to something we can manage. They actually fire THROUGH space-time to hit our ships. No telling how powerful one of those turrets are in their local timeframe, perhaps as powerful or moreso than a Titan doomsday.

I will continue studying and see what I can uncover.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-01-16 19:23:15 UTC
Since when gallente can study?..

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#3 - 2016-01-16 20:03:06 UTC
Err, all our vessels "interacts" with space-time. It's integral to our warp drive technology and the reason why we have to fly our vessels as if submerged in a liquid medium. The old warp-drive acting like a drift anchor lesson I dearly hope your education gave you.

Perhaps some more details than vague pop culture buzzwords from bad Gallente holoreels like "out of phase with space-time" would be a bit more useful, especially since it all seems to just be random supposition and wild theories.
Yatolila Koskanaiken
Nagles Capital Management
#4 - 2016-01-17 12:06:08 UTC
Data? Footage? Anything?

I regret expecting anything more.
Seraphim Risen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-01-18 14:58:15 UTC
Came for the science, stayed for the tabloid-quality reporting.

Never not badpost.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#6 - 2016-01-18 20:57:10 UTC
He blinded me with PSEUDO-SCIENCE!!

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Morgan Wulver
SAYR Reserve Guard
SAYR Galactic
#7 - 2016-01-19 04:50:42 UTC
Is this adequate research that can be applied in any meaningful way? No, absolutely not. But perhaps you're all being too hard on the sod. If anything, he's made some detailed observations and has lead us to a possible hypothesis that can be used to gather further data and information on the Drifter threat.

It's more than most of you have done.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2016-01-19 17:12:16 UTC
His observation about the propulsion rods is fair; that's been a point of some interest given how nimble and fast the ship is, and its lack of reaction drives.

However, 'out of phase with space-time' just frankly strikes me as technobabble. Out of phase? Is reality a wave function?

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2016-01-19 17:38:10 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
His observation about the propulsion rods is fair; that's been a point of some interest given how nimble and fast the ship is, and its lack of reaction drives.

However, 'out of phase with space-time' just frankly strikes me as technobabble. Out of phase? Is reality a wave function?


I think someone already said this, but ...

Isn't it just sort of a description of how a warp or even a microwarp drive functions? Interactions within spacetime being constrained by the speed of light?

In a sense, the effect of FTL travel and communications is to outrun causality. I seem to remember that the travel aspect of this is done by sort of dropping us out of the universe, sliding us past it, and re-annexing us to it someplace else. If so, it would be significant (but not very surprising) if the Drifter battleships use that sort of trickery as a primary drive rather than a supplementary system. It's just the same stuff we do, taken to the point of full adoption of a technology we only understand (and therefore only apply) at a pretty sketchy level.

Just what you'd expect from Ancients.

Do I remember all that right, Ms. Priano?
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#10 - 2016-01-21 16:01:01 UTC
Ms. Jenneth, you're absolutely on the mark. Everything I read about historical models of causality evidently go thrown out the window once we started using FTL technologies. It was, indeed, one of those things: "Man can't fly! Man can't cross the sound barrier! Man can't survive outside the atmosphere! Man can't go faster than light!"

Now, it just seems an antiquated notion.

As for the Drifters, indeed, they have no reaction drives on their ships at all, and so are using spacetime interaction as their primary method of maneuvering.

It's, uh, rather impressive, seeing a battleship-sized vessel with no signature bloom move as nimbly and swiftly as a cruiser.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-01-24 09:40:31 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Man can't survive outside the atmosphere!

I proudly invite you to visit my ship's airlock without an EVA suit to conduct a scientific experiment.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.