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Am I missing somethin or has eve changed a lot!??

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PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#1 - 2016-01-14 21:02:10 UTC
Hi all, I have just returned to the game after an 18 month break to join in with my son and we are loving it!
We are not carebears, just want intel!!!
We have been ganked twice in a few days, hauling and mining in high sec. All part of the game.......P

There was always the risk, but never so much, have also witnessed a few gate ganks too.

BUT has the game changed that much this happens a lot more, or is the a hulkageddon type thing going on we don't know about??
We are practicing the warp drills etc etc but a heads up would be cool!!!!!!

Ibutho Inkosi
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-01-14 21:06:07 UTC
Yeah. Screw the meta game. EVE is now a gankfest. Where once it took intelligence...now it takes two thumbs.
Take pride in your love of games of skill! Sell them PLEXES!!

As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2016-01-14 21:09:15 UTC
Yes, it has changed a lot :)

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2016-01-14 21:11:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
you got smacked by Complaints Department (the mercenaries formerly known as forsaken asylum)

pretty sure you are at war mate.
check the war history tab on your corp info.


just checked and no you are not, im guessing you were suspect or had a kill-right
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#5 - 2016-01-14 21:16:01 UTC
No war, I got gate ganked for 120mil on Amarr to Do' run, and today in a usually very quiet system 2 cat's suicide ganked a solo retriever.
also we have seen three high sec ganks in 24 hours, there were always pirates, but never so hectic!
MAy as well play in nullsec, at least always ready for it.....
Top Guac
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-01-14 21:20:37 UTC
PineRidge Raider wrote:
MAy as well play in nullsec, at least always ready for it.....

That's the whole point. You should always be ready for it.

Highsec was AFK central. Thankfully less so now.
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#7 - 2016-01-14 21:20:44 UTC
Todays hit was reasonable people / of sound mind. the hit by complaints dept was them gating a freighter, I just got in the way I guess.....
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2016-01-14 21:24:33 UTC
PineRidge Raider wrote:
No war, I got gate ganked for 120mil on Amarr to Do' run, and today in a usually very quiet system 2 cat's suicide ganked a solo retriever.
also we have seen three high sec ganks in 24 hours, there were always pirates, but never so hectic!
MAy as well play in nullsec, at least always ready for it.....

that pipe is where a lot (and i mean a lot) of that sort of thing happens.

amarr to dixie is hot most of the time , particularly in and around Uedama.

worth noting theres a bit of drama going on in the merc scene in that area too so best haul cautiously in that pipe i.e. 120mill is waaaaay yo much value for a t1 hauler
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#9 - 2016-01-14 21:25:20 UTC
Top Guac wrote:
PineRidge Raider wrote:
MAy as well play in nullsec, at least always ready for it.....

That's the whole point. You should always be ready for it.

Highsec was AFK central. Thankfully less so now.


I'm not whining, just wanna make sure we know the score that's all!!!!
Shiney new member of corp lost his barge 24 hours after meeting us, thinks we set him up and trying to show him solo mining was the issue, not us. Pity because I am naturally choosy who my son hangs out with!!!
Personally I am glad Dull Sec is a little more peppery!
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#10 - 2016-01-14 21:26:27 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
PineRidge Raider wrote:
No war, I got gate ganked for 120mil on Amarr to Do' run, and today in a usually very quiet system 2 cat's suicide ganked a solo retriever.
also we have seen three high sec ganks in 24 hours, there were always pirates, but never so hectic!
MAy as well play in nullsec, at least always ready for it.....

that pipe is where a lot (and i mean a lot) of that sort of thing happens.

amarr to dixie is hot most of the time , particularly in and around Uedama.

worth noting theres a bit of drama going on in the merc scene in that area too so best haul cautiously in that pipe i.e. 120mill is waaaaay yo much value for a t1 hauler


88mil was implants...
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#11 - 2016-01-14 21:34:08 UTC
Thank you for the input though.
Personally I would rather my boy learns some of life's lessons in eve, rather than out there!!! What?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2016-01-14 21:37:48 UTC
PineRidge Raider wrote:
Hi all, I have just returned to the game after an 18 month break to join in with my son and we are loving it!
We are not carebears, just want intel!!!
We have been ganked twice in a few days, hauling and mining in high sec. All part of the game.......P

There was always the risk, but never so much, have also witnessed a few gate ganks too.

BUT has the game changed that much this happens a lot more, or is the a hulkageddon type thing going on we don't know about??
We are practicing the warp drills etc etc but a heads up would be cool!!!!!!




Well let's look at forum posts from 18 months ago and see if we can work out whether EVE has actually changed or it's just that you noticed it now that you personally have lost a ship.


(Actually we don't have to look at forum posts from 18 months ago for this.)

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2016-01-14 21:39:05 UTC
PineRidge Raider wrote:

88mil was implants...

i can see that now.

im not getting how they had the right to shoot you without getting concorded though,
no one on that kill (or the pod) lost a ship .

were you suspect?


PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#14 - 2016-01-14 21:43:41 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
PineRidge Raider wrote:
Hi all, I have just returned to the game after an 18 month break to join in with my son and we are loving it!
We are not carebears, just want intel!!!
We have been ganked twice in a few days, hauling and mining in high sec. All part of the game.......P

There was always the risk, but never so much, have also witnessed a few gate ganks too.

BUT has the game changed that much this happens a lot more, or is the a hulkageddon type thing going on we don't know about??
We are practicing the warp drills etc etc but a heads up would be cool!!!!!!




Well let's look at forum posts from 18 months ago and see if we can work out whether EVE has actually changed or it's just that you noticed it now that you personally have lost a ship.


(Actually we don't have to look at forum posts from 18 months ago for this.)


I'm not sure what you are getting at there really.
Not the first ships I've lost and I'm not complaining that I did at all, makes things more interesting as far as I am concerned.
Was just asking the community if suicide ganks for 'little' kills was more of a thing now.
I love the way that Eve has to be played as it is, not how you might like it to be.
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#15 - 2016-01-14 21:54:47 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
PineRidge Raider wrote:

88mil was implants...

i can see that now.

im not getting how they had the right to shoot you without getting concorded though,
no one on that kill (or the pod) lost a ship .

were you suspect?




LOL, now there is a question! I was smoking, son was flying.... he denies all, another lesson learned for him (I hope).
I'm really not complaining about a specific loss, with the crazy PLEX inflation since I had my break I lost less than a half pint of beer or a whiles worth of ratting / mining.

Was just the general question of level of gank activity really, burning two Cats for a random solo retriever seems a bit crazier than it used to be, that's all. Wasn't sure if there was some form of event going on.
My son warped out the second there was red on his overview ( I taught him some things quite well, corp mate didn't because he wasn't even aligned as the system 'has always been so quiet why has this happened to me!?'
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2016-01-14 22:01:42 UTC
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#17 - 2016-01-14 22:11:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
PineRidge Raider wrote:
Was just the general question of level of gank activity really, burning two Cats for a random solo retriever seems a bit crazier than it used to be, that's all. Wasn't sure if there was some form of event going on.
My son warped out the second there was red on his overview ( I taught him some things quite well, corp mate didn't because he wasn't even aligned as the system 'has always been so quiet why has this happened to me!?'

We just like to figure these things out is all.

There was only 1 catalyst involved in the Retreiver kill (Kaal Khamsi loss), which was a straight gank.

Same with the Heron loss also. That was a straight gank.

However, your Iteron loss is a bit strange, since you were killed and podded but no CONCORD response occurred.

That would imply that you were either (1) at war with Complaints Department, (2) were suspect from something you did, or (3) had a killright against you that they activated, making you suspect.

(3) isn't possible looking at your killboard and you aren't at war with Complaints Department, so you must have done something earlier (eg. looted a can) that made you suspect, in which case it wasn't a gank at all, they just killed you because you were a legal target for everyone.
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#18 - 2016-01-14 22:26:23 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
PineRidge Raider wrote:
Was just the general question of level of gank activity really, burning two Cats for a random solo retriever seems a bit crazier than it used to be, that's all. Wasn't sure if there was some form of event going on.
My son warped out the second there was red on his overview ( I taught him some things quite well, corp mate didn't because he wasn't even aligned as the system 'has always been so quiet why has this happened to me!?'

We just like to figure these things out is all.

There was only 1 catalyst involved in the Retreiver kill (Kaal Khamsi loss), which was a straight gank.

Same with the Heron loss also. That was a straight gank.

However, your Iteron loss is a bit strange, since you were killed and podded but no CONCORD response occurred.

That would imply that you were either (1) at war with Complaints Department, (2) were suspect from something you did, or (3) had a killright against you that they activated, making you suspect.

(3) isn't possible looking at your killboard and you aren't at war with Complaints Department, so you must have done something earlier (eg. looted a can) that made you suspect, in which case it wasn't a gank at all, they just killed you because you were a legal target for everyone.



I suspect case 2, my son must of poked into the freighter he just saw get ganked regardless of his adolescent protests and denials! Lesson learned, no problem..he really is noob (in the literal sense) after all! At least he got his barge out of the gank.
PineRidge Raider
DADDEX
#19 - 2016-01-14 22:27:12 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5001248#post5001248


Thanks Tau, that will save me a lot of typing!
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#20 - 2016-01-14 22:35:40 UTC
PineRidge Raider wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
PineRidge Raider wrote:

88mil was implants...

i can see that now.

im not getting how they had the right to shoot you without getting concorded though,
no one on that kill (or the pod) lost a ship .

were you suspect?




LOL, now there is a question! I was smoking, son was flying.... he denies all, another lesson learned for him (I hope).
I'm really not complaining about a specific loss, with the crazy PLEX inflation since I had my break I lost less than a half pint of beer or a whiles worth of ratting / mining.

Was just the general question of level of gank activity really, burning two Cats for a random solo retriever seems a bit crazier than it used to be, that's all. Wasn't sure if there was some form of event going on.
My son warped out the second there was red on his overview ( I taught him some things quite well, corp mate didn't because he wasn't even aligned as the system 'has always been so quiet why has this happened to me!?'

Bottom line: Stop smoking. Lol

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