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The downfall of Minmatar Militia

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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#161 - 2016-01-18 20:31:51 UTC
You know, you guys, and I mean pretty much everyone in this thread, probably including myself:

This is the worst ever recruitment ad for the Militias.

I'll be in the GW, shooting Angels.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#162 - 2016-01-18 20:35:58 UTC
I dearly hope I've never given the impression I was trying to recruit for TLF. I'd rather the psychopaths in eggs went pretty much anywhere else. System control etc is vastly less important than setting an example, and the great majority of eggers aren't particularly good at that. More meat into the bloodsport grinder serves no one but the bloodthirsty people here just for the killmarks.

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#163 - 2016-01-18 20:42:16 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I dearly hope I've never given the impression I was trying to recruit for TLF. I'd rather the psychopaths in eggs went pretty much anywhere else. System control etc is vastly less important than setting an example, and the great majority of eggers aren't particularly good at that. More meat into the bloodsport grinder serves no one but the bloodthirsty people here just for the killmarks.


Says the meat.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#164 - 2016-01-18 20:43:09 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I've had to fly solo in the defense of Roushzar. I am rather surprised and disappointed by the sheer amount of AmarrMil that will let a single Typhoon sit untouched for multiple large plexes in a row. I've barely gotten the paint scratched on it the last few days.

Fear of cynos....
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#165 - 2016-01-18 20:46:15 UTC
Can't cyno in a plex, dear.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#166 - 2016-01-18 20:47:44 UTC
Durr..... My bad. I'm starting to get forgetful..... Don't mind me....
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#167 - 2016-01-18 21:25:00 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I am rather surprised and disappointed by the sheer amount of AmarrMil that will let a single Typhoon sit untouched for multiple large plexes in a row. I've barely gotten the paint scratched on it the last few days.


Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

Now that Roushar has fallen, could you let us know your new location for circling large buttons?

Hope to see you soon!
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#168 - 2016-01-18 21:32:51 UTC
Well, while it would appear I do have Prophetic powers, having called pretty much everything that has transpired over the last year or so, I wouldn't want to hazard a guess as to where the 24th will be focusing next. I suspect we might meet wherever the fighting will be thickest in the weeks or months to come.

That said, it seems the few times I do get a fight in that thing, the locusts on both sides swarm the site.
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#169 - 2016-01-18 23:31:04 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
That said, it seems the few times I do get a fight in that thing, the locusts on both sides swarm the site.


Yes, because we shoot you all the time. Do you seriously not listen to yourself? So dramatic, so negative, so inflammatory.

And you're the hero, you're the good one. You're not the petulant malcontent who refuses to take any help that isn't specifically catered to your infantile black-and-white view of the world. So perfect, so flawless, pure of intent. Savior of the Minmatar.

No, you're a worm, you're dishonest and your constant harassment won't be tolerated indefinitely. You can keep taking credit for other peoples' accomplishments and cry wolf every time you think something sinister is happening but eventually people will wise up to your diversion and division. You might appear loyal to the Minmatar but you're clearly a traitor to reason.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#170 - 2016-01-18 23:39:55 UTC
Are you losing your mind or something? You guys haven't even been on field with me, other than Khaprice. Well, and a pestering gnat that was buzzing around our impromptu move earlier today. Now, if you care to read what I wrote, maybe two or three times more, maybe you'll note that it was never implied that both sides shot at me. I chose my words with care, implying that any fight I get in that thing pretty quickly turns into a charlie foxtrot rather than any stand-up fight.

You are in dire need of having your panties unbunched, girl. I take the mickey out of you and the rest of your traitorous friends more than enough as it is, without you having to see it where there is none.
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#171 - 2016-01-18 23:54:52 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
You are in dire need of having your panties unbunched, girl.


And here is your hero, folks, curly tail and all.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#172 - 2016-01-19 00:01:43 UTC
Now now, save the vitriol and tears. If you spend it all in one place, you'll run out.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#173 - 2016-01-19 00:18:05 UTC
*Checks her stocks in popcorn then settles in to watch the rest of the show*

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#174 - 2016-01-19 00:20:53 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Now now, save the vitriol and tears. If you spend it all in one place, you'll run out.


Laugh all you want but what you are doing is genuinely upsetting. You are hurting me, you are hurting our coalition and you are hurting the Militia. As your peers flock to us, the "us" you're so desperate to define will keep becoming "them" and you'll suddenly find yourself without any bridges left to orbitally bombard with your stupidity.
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#175 - 2016-01-19 00:30:15 UTC
*sigh* Okay, maybe we're both a little excited here. Mizhara, I don't want to fight you. We don't want to be your enemy. We are trying to do good things here, but your skepticism is completely understandable. Please give us the opportunity to prove our sincerity.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#176 - 2016-01-19 00:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Mizhara Del'thul
Aphoxema G wrote:
Laugh all you want but what you are doing is genuinely upsetting. You are hurting me, you are hurting our coalition and you are hurting the Militia. As your peers flock to us, the "us" you're so desperate to define will keep becoming "them" and you'll suddenly find yourself without any bridges left to orbitally bombard with your stupidity.


Upsetting, is it? I'm sorry, but that is supposed to dissuade me? You and yours made your choices and now you expect these choices to not have consequences. You expect all of New Eden to ignore years of history and actions made in many names and for many causes, and even to ignore the fact that your members are attacking TLF members (combat registries can be looked at for evidence of this), your alliance is attacking our allies (again, combat registries don't lie) and you expect me to care about your feelings?

You want to play the victim because I call you on your own actions?

Oh yes, I'm such a horrible monster. Wielding words at an alliance that wields autocannons, missiles and more at TLF members and GalMil both. I am truly horrendous, holding you accountable for what you have done and what you keep doing to this day. I hurt you as I write on the IGS, not falling for your sob story. I am truly a villain, hmm?

You poor little victim, under such a savage and brutal assault.

I have no words for how much you disgust me, you pitiful little runt.

We have all made poor choices in our capsuleer careers. We have all done the wrong thing for the right reasons or the right thing for the wrong reasons. We've murdered and slaughtered our way across the stars, raining blood down upon the worlds beneath us. I have no will will towards those who have stepped wrong and done harm as I have. I truly loathe, however, you sickening and vile scum who pretend and claim it never happened. That you have done no wrong and deserve no judgment for it.

I placed myself at my clan's mercy and it was not particularly merciful. I will carry my marks of shame for all of New Eden to see, right on my very face, until I have earned the right to claim I have repaid my debts and undone the harm I did to my clan and people through my actions and failure.

Can such a selfish and narcissistic little mind as yours even grasp that concept? Can you even come close to understanding why you represent some of the most loathsome concepts of New Eden to me? You claim victim-hood and cry your measly tears in public because the villainous Mizhara Del'thul speaks words at you, refusing responsibility for anything you have ever done or are doing...

... and you never will, I suspect.

Give me an honest villain any day. Someone who will stand tall and claim their own actions, victories and failures both, as their own. Someone who will take responsibility for their failures as well as their achievements. I may hate their choices but I will respect their honesty and perhaps even forgive and embrace them if they work to fix their mistakes. I don't think you're capable of grasping such a thing though, dishonorable little cur.

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*sigh* Okay, maybe we're both a little excited here. Mizhara, I don't want to fight you. We don't want to be your enemy. We are trying to do good things here, but your skepticism is completely understandable. Please give us the opportunity to prove our sincerity.


Should you prove in action that you take responsibility for your history and actions, I certainly would. So far though, your own alliance leaders and members have spoken quite eloquently to further the point that "they don't care."
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#177 - 2016-01-19 00:44:49 UTC
Well, f**k. There goes that olive branch. Guess my stocks in popcorn don't get sold just yet....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#178 - 2016-01-19 01:06:01 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:

I placed myself at my clan's mercy and it was not particularly merciful. I will carry my marks of shame for all of New Eden to see, right on my very face, until I have earned the right to claim I have repaid my debts and undone the harm I did to my clan and people through my actions and failure.
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Should you prove in action that you take responsibility for your history and actions, I certainly would. So far though, your own alliance leaders and members have spoken quite eloquently to further the point that "they don't care."

Rather than having an Amarrian style ****ing match lets just end this here. Quite obviously the issues are well and known. If they wish to right their past wrongs lets let them prove their merit by action, just as you have with your clan. Maybe their leadership doesn't care but why not let those who wish to do well do so instead of stonewalling them into oblivion.
Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#179 - 2016-01-19 01:07:24 UTC
Booting Funk? Nope
Helping UK fight in Roush during early hours? Yep
Caring about how this thread makes us look as a corp? Not really.
Stopping null roams that have turned into little more than killing cattle for meat? Nope

I think I've addressed the points against me.
Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#180 - 2016-01-19 01:39:46 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
... You and yours made your choices and now you expect these choices to not have consequences. You expect all of New Eden to ignore years of history and actions made in many names and for many causes, and even to ignore the fact that your members are attacking TLF members ... you expect me to care about your feelings?



We have encountered some misunderstandings in our operations, and there is certainly differences in who we define to be applicable targets. A few have been unintended. Some others... we try to offer warnings of premptive strikes to ensure the security of our fleets, and as we become more familiar with which pilots are merely inexperienced and those which are pirates or spies it will happen less. We are facing some prejudice, after all, and we don't know who is willing to attack us.

Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
... I am truly a villain, hmm?

... We have all made poor choices in our capsuleer careers. We have all done the wrong thing for the right reasons or the right thing for the wrong reasons. We've murdered and slaughtered our way across the stars, raining blood down upon the worlds beneath us. I have no will will towards those who have stepped wrong and done harm as I have.


I've used harsh words, and I apologize. I am honestly protective of Valentina, I hold her in some reverence for convincing me to return to the Minmatar. There are times the Amarr had convinced me the Minmatar were sure to be defeated, that it was better to serve them willingly while I still had the opportunity. Pyre Falcon was a different experience. We worked for the Amarr, but were not Amarr. They did not encourage me to partake in the faith, they just wanted me to be an exemplary pilot regardless of my race or idealogy.

I was born Minmatar of body, but I wasn't raised Minmatar. I didn't even meet Minmatar society until well after I graduated. I've always been an outsider, vesting myself in Minmatar culture while seeing everything with cosmopolitan eyes. I've made many mistakes, and I've been a terrible, selfish and ignorant person for a very long time now. I am trying to grow, now.

Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I placed myself at my clan's mercy and it was not particularly merciful. I will carry my marks of shame for all of New Eden to see, right on my very face, until I have earned the right to claim I have repaid my debts and undone the harm I did to my clan and people through my actions and failure.

Can you even come close to understanding why you represent some of the most loathsome concepts of New Eden to me?

I may hate their choices but I will respect their honesty and perhaps even forgive and embrace them if they work to fix their mistakes. I don't think you're capable of grasping such a thing though ...


I can't grasp it. I don't even begin to understand the way you see the world, and it's unfair of me to demand that you start agreeing with me about anything when I'm obviously the intruder.

Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Should you prove in action that you take responsibility for your history and actions, I certainly would. So far though, your own alliance leaders and members have spoken quite eloquently to further the point that "they don't care."


Please also understand that even before this initiative began you have been a detractor to several of us and you have threatened our appearence by setting a narrative that does not accurately depict MCF1B, Calmatar syncretists or the membership of 2LC. Ideally, we can rectify all of this, but it'll require a little clemency for our occasional disorder and the cultural differences we face between our organizations.