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Victoria Crendraven
The Liberators of Cistuvaert
#1 - 2016-01-11 21:56:40 UTC
Hello!

I've created my own language, Gallentean, and have incorporated it into an online translator. I'd like to release it when it's FAR more complete, but I'd love it if you could give me sentences to translate, to try it out!

Cheers
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2016-01-11 22:04:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
"No no, thats not it at all. Make it more ... Psssssshhhhhh"

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Annemariela Antonela
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-01-11 22:04:11 UTC
"I thought you'd be cuter in person."

“Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.”

― Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-01-11 22:11:42 UTC
Quick, to the space potato

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#5 - 2016-01-11 22:13:12 UTC
"We should give all our systems over to the Caldari!"

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Victoria Crendraven
The Liberators of Cistuvaert
#6 - 2016-01-11 22:17:02 UTC
"No no, thats not it at all. Make it more ... Psssssshhhhhh"

"Non non, esta est pa le at tod. Fai le mas. . . psssssshhhhhh"


"I thought you'd be cuter in person."

"Ye pensa te estre mas minione dan person."


"Quick, to the space potato!"

"Rapid, a li espas patat!"

It's a mix of the five romance languages, a bit of English, a simpler structure than any of those and a space twist.
Victoria Crendraven
The Liberators of Cistuvaert
#7 - 2016-01-11 22:22:07 UTC
"We should give all our systems over to the Caldari!"

"Min devre done tod nos systemes a li Caldari!"
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#8 - 2016-01-11 22:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Is it really a different language, or is it just different words using English grammar?

One thing I like about some artificial languages, they are true new languages. You can't get a thesaurus and puzzle your way through.

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"We should give all our systems over to the Caldari!"

"Min devre done tod nos systemes a li Caldari!"


This is poo.

Another thing is, Do the Caldari refer to themselves as Caldari, or is that what everyone else calls them? Because when you learn other languages, often the word another language uses to refer to a nation is different.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Victoria Crendraven
The Liberators of Cistuvaert
#9 - 2016-01-11 22:30:57 UTC
True new words, using invented new rules.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#10 - 2016-01-11 22:34:54 UTC
Victoria Crendraven wrote:
True new words, using invented new rules.


Looks like thesarus English. Not seeing any signs of a true different language. Although you dropped "over"

Really, it's the grammar and phonological differences that really make languages different. I'm just seeing English with different words.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Victoria Crendraven
The Liberators of Cistuvaert
#11 - 2016-01-11 22:38:41 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Victoria Crendraven wrote:
True new words, using invented new rules.


Looks like thesarus English. Not seeing any signs of a true different language. Although you dropped "over"

Really, it's the grammar and phonological differences that really make languages different. I'm just seeing English with different words.


Inverted adjectives, emphasis is inserted into words rather than before "awesome", instead of being it's separate word, becomes "maxbien": "verygood".

It's based off French evolving, since the Gallente are descendants of the French.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#12 - 2016-01-11 22:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
To give an example using you're attempt. I'm just going to assume you've already created some phonological structure that this sample doesn't truly show the limits of.

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"We should give all our systems over to the Caldari!"

"Min devre done tod nos systemes a li Caldari!"


Kaladri li devredone tod ystem Min

Lit: Caldari to should(give) all systems We

Language differences.
Caldari drops contextually obvious words (our) because you can't give away someone else's systems.
Because the culture of Caldari is focused on the corp, any references to one's self or group are always last in the sentence.
deredone is a "conjugation" of the word (done) which are actually modified prepositionally. Verbs are thus "conjugated" maybe 20 different ways based on common usage.
Thus basic sentence structure is
predicate verb object subject

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Victoria Crendraven
The Liberators of Cistuvaert
#13 - 2016-01-11 22:57:11 UTC
LE est a verid conu universemen, que a marifema est li sol val a marisol avec a maxbien ric.


Guess where that's from.
Annemariela Antonela
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-01-11 23:04:55 UTC
It just seems like a cipher using words from other languages, with trivial syntactic flips and compounding.

“Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.”

― Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-01-11 23:08:06 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Ooh, btw.

Wrong forum part.

NCQA is about in game help.

Not sure though if this is OOP or Summit food...let ISD make that call



P.s.

Space Potato translates to Dominix

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#16 - 2016-01-11 23:48:38 UTC
Annemariela Antonela wrote:
It just seems like a cipher using words from other languages, with trivial syntactic flips and compounding.


Yea, that's what I was trying to say but the word cipher wasn't coming to mind. I was just trying to skim the surface of what makes languages different. There are books written on the subject.

Generally, right off the bat, if the sentence lengths are pretty much the same and the word breaks are all the same, then it's more likely a cipher than a different language.

Other things that identify different languages.

Different connotations for words.
Generic words in one language might have 5 or more situationaly relevant counterparts in another language.
words might be different parts of speech. A verb in one language might be a noun in another. So even though the meaning is the same, the usage might be different.
A lot of culturally significant words that simply do not translate.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#17 - 2016-01-11 23:53:33 UTC
Dun qech, pol woDDI' QaQ Qap ghaH

... Oh, sorry. That was klingon, not gallente. Big smile

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-01-12 00:07:29 UTC
Rykker Bow wrote:
Dun qech, pol woDDI' QaQ Qap ghaH

... Oh, sorry. That was klingon, not gallente. Big smile


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Damn, don't tell me, wrong galaxy and wrong era??

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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2016-01-12 00:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Max Trix
Moved to MY EVE.

Quote:

There is no greater force in the Cluster than a Jita Scammer trying to make a buck.
--Gallentean Proverb


I would like to see that translated please.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2016-01-12 00:30:09 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Quick, to the space potato

I am sad inside that the Domi no longer looks like a potato.

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