Crime & Punishment

You are blowing your cover. The "Post with your main" argument is a trade mark of C&P veteran posters. Particularly telling from a self proclaimed "NPC Alt".

Please see yourself out, or post with your main OP.

First of all, dude called me "guileless".

But more importantly, this thread shows why the New Order is always winning. ALWAYS.

Contrary to the OPs premise, we Agents of the New Order are hardly brainwashed, we are not bullies and we are certainly not deleterious. We represent everything that makes Eve a different game from all the rest. We are the danger that waits when a player undocks. We are the corrective punishment for the stupid mistake. We are the just reward for every botter, AFKer and autopiloter who thought they were safe and could disregard the rest of the Eve community. But most of all, we are an example of how players, and players alone, can create something that is extraordinary, impactful and a massive amount of fun.

Because that, in the end, is why the New Order, CODE. and all the supporters of James 315 cannot be defeated. We are having a blast, in a uniquely positive environment, and our playstyle is attractive, sustainable and true to the ideals of Eve Online. WE are what people join this game to do. We welcome anyone who wants to participate... without judgement, without suspicion and without negativity.

Anti-ganking continuously fails not because the pilots are unskilled, uneducated and unwilling. They fail because they fight for a negative cause. The ranks of the New Order are full of former AG pilots. I can think of no former Agent who now considers themselves an anti-ganker. Its just no fun over there. Just a short visit to the anti-ganking channel is enough to turn away many players. Say something slightly off message and you will be accused of being a CODE. spy and quickly banished. The futility of the Uedama AG fleets finish off many more. You just can't make it fun to fail time after time and when there is something that kinda looks like success realize that the player you saved (for the moment) DOESN'T EVEN KNOW YOU DID IT. Well, keeping up morale in that environment is not likely.

A player that wants to get into the content we create has three choices. The first is to be an AFK miner, an autopiloting freighter or shuttle pilot, or the self-serving CEO of a highsec industrial corp. Those we will destroy as we have been doing. OR you can choose to join the anti-gankers. Prepare for anger, frustration, paranoia and failure. Finally, you can become an Agent of the New Order. There you will find friendship, adventure, excitement and most definitely humor.

What more could you ask for?

It's totally amazing that you grind ISK all day and then give it away to some other people so they can have actually fun while playing EVE just because of us. I mean that ISK would have been totally useless in your wallet, now it fuels explosions and content. Sadly you have no part in this content you create with your ISK, but at least you pay for it.

Looks like The Code wins again, like it always does.

This post should be deleterious'

I never said I 'grind' isk, just said I had the 'means'. The MERCs will create content and CODEs means to create isk will hurt.

This campaign started well before I started talking, but my rhetoric is backed by action and preplanning. Its for you to take your own path, but take that first step. Just don't kowtow and be free of threats of violence and intimidation.

Our first names are common, our surnames reveal the truth and our history.

What ever happened to good ole Veers?

Insufferable as he may have been, he at least could frame a structured statement and a semi decent argument most days. I didn't agree with him too much, but at least he was fun to see in action.

You haven't directly responded to my rebuttal. What I have seen thus far, in the discourse here, is wishful thinking-- imagining some galaxy without conflict.

Now what, exactly, would be the point of playing a game like that? Obviously, the trivial, opt-in kind of conflict that PVE offers would be the only point. Therefore, you'd have yet another single-player game.

Which Eve isn't.

Noob does not equal stupid.

Your missives fall short of your goals, I'm afraid.

To be quite blunt, there are smarter people out there who see the weaknesses in any argument, even given limited contexts.

No one ever said natural selection was fair. You are free to write yourself out of the genome.

Frankly, I think a game forum is a poor place to posit pet ideologies about human life-- because that's really what people are trying to do-- ascribe some kind of outside valuation upon what is, in essence, a battle arena.

It will never work.