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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-01-11 04:31:21 UTC
What happened to my game?

I just returned. I hopped a dozen systems and found no fights, no smack-talk, and no fleets.

I have surmised that CCP has successfully decommissioned high-sec warfare. Now I am trying to "fit in".


So I have decided to try industry... Which is what everyone else is doing I think.


I tried planetary interaction. I made a command post. I can't figure out how to attack anyone else's command outposts and I don't understand what the objective is. I have told it to do something for 18 days and I'm looking forward to finding out what that was.

So far, industry is like a pie-eating contest where the prize is more pie. I started my planetary thing. I made a few bantams for about 3x what they cost on the market. I'm guessing if I get good at this I'll be better able to amass isk with my increasing isk generation capacity. As that grows, I'll get better at making isk.

I must really like isk.

Now I'm going to try to learn to fly the retriever. How often does a 100 million SP pilot say that?
Mo

...I miss highsec warfare they was it was in 2012... Bring back old aggro... For the love of Eve...
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-01-11 08:15:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Yourmoney Mywallet
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
I made a few bantams for about 3x what they cost on the market.

Uhm... you should really try mining your own minerals. Then they are "free."
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#3 - 2016-01-11 08:51:21 UTC
Low sec is still fun. Go have a look.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#4 - 2016-01-11 11:55:26 UTC
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Low sec is still fun. Go have a look.

Oi **** off I'm re recruiting RO Blink

CoolCool

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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#5 - 2016-01-11 12:53:49 UTC
I would recruit him to rabble though. Armil is full again.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-01-11 14:47:49 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Low sec is still fun. Go have a look.

Oi **** off I'm re recruiting RO Blink

CoolCool



You looking for a retriever pilot?

I'm about to start training to fly one! I also have a bit of expertise with planetary interaction (I have a thing on a planet in Ruvas that's making something and I can't wait to find out what it is).

Do I sound like a good fit?
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-01-11 14:49:41 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
I made a few bantams for about 3x what they cost on the market.

Uhm... you should really try mining your own minerals. Then they are "free."


Opportunity cost: you could sell those "free" minerals at market value. Why would I sacrifice that opportunity to make bantams which are less valuable?

Seems like bad advice to me.
Mo
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#8 - 2016-01-11 15:06:54 UTC
I do it on an alt. It's relaxing. Helps me process my anger.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#9 - 2016-01-11 15:16:45 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Low sec is still fun. Go have a look.

Oi **** off I'm re recruiting RO Blink

CoolCool



You looking for a retriever pilot?

I'm about to start training to fly one! I also have a bit of expertise with planetary interaction (I have a thing on a planet in Ruvas that's making something and I can't wait to find out what it is).

Do I sound like a good fit?

Sounds very rabbly Lol.

PS these are the same newbies from fredegar + some other newbies here and some oldbros there

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-01-11 15:19:27 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Ro Fenrios wrote:
Low sec is still fun. Go have a look.

Oi **** off I'm re recruiting RO Blink

CoolCool



You looking for a retriever pilot?

I'm about to start training to fly one! I also have a bit of expertise with planetary interaction (I have a thing on a planet in Ruvas that's making something and I can't wait to find out what it is).

Do I sound like a good fit?

Sounds very rabbly Lol.

PS these are the same newbies from fredegar + some other newbies here and some oldbros there


Where is home station? Do you know if I can bring my planetary station with me? I need it because it reprocesses anger.

Do you reimburse me if I lose a retriever?
Toxic Yaken
Slavers Union
Something Really Pretentious
#11 - 2016-01-11 17:08:02 UTC
This pains me. Remember when CCP was advertising that you could be "the villain" in this game?

Come to lowsec mo, I'll give you the dusty retriever I kept to remind me of the life I left behind

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-01-11 22:47:26 UTC
Toxic Yaken wrote:
This pains me. Remember when CCP was advertising that you could be "the villain" in this game?

Come to lowsec mo, I'll give you the dusty retriever I kept to remind me of the life I left behind


I may. I actually am trying industry, but it's going like a recreational visit to the dentist. Planetary interaction is really something.

Noragen was saying something good about joining Rabble, I assume that's the same as your alliance.

Maybe I'll see you down there.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#13 - 2016-01-12 00:14:21 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Toxic Yaken wrote:
This pains me. Remember when CCP was advertising that you could be "the villain" in this game?

Come to lowsec mo, I'll give you the dusty retriever I kept to remind me of the life I left behind


I may. I actually am trying industry, but it's going like a recreational visit to the dentist. Planetary interaction is really something.

Noragen was saying something good about joining Rabble, I assume that's the same as your alliance.

Maybe I'll see you down there.

but how will offer yoru merc service??? I didn't endorse that for nothing I hope

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-01-12 05:48:36 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Toxic Yaken wrote:
This pains me. Remember when CCP was advertising that you could be "the villain" in this game?

Come to lowsec mo, I'll give you the dusty retriever I kept to remind me of the life I left behind


I may. I actually am trying industry, but it's going like a recreational visit to the dentist. Planetary interaction is really something.

Noragen was saying something good about joining Rabble, I assume that's the same as your alliance.

Maybe I'll see you down there.

but how will offer yoru merc service??? I didn't endorse that for nothing I hope


I have a confession.

I was just posting that MERC crap to take the **** out of some guys who were offering Dodixie denial. Seriously, what do you do when the only hubs you have to choose from are Jita, Amarr, Hek, and a dozen others?

I didn't expect any big orders for Umokka denial with sides of smacktalk and planetary interaction.

Then something wonderful happened. Then I got a request to throw a firework parade for Holysheet. I like this idea... ALOT.

Now I'm legit. Maybe even more legit than my third party isk services.

I've got a parade to plan.

This may be the best MERC contract I've ever serviced.
Mo
HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#15 - 2016-01-19 13:30:40 UTC
Firework parade? Vote for me for csm and I will stay off the forums. I'm a PI professional, if you ever need any hints btw.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#16 - 2016-01-20 03:03:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Shallanna Yassavi
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
I made a few bantams for about 3x what they cost on the market.

Uhm... you should really try mining your own minerals. Then they are "free."


Opportunity cost: you could sell those "free" minerals at market value. Why would I sacrifice that opportunity to make bantams which are less valuable?

Seems like bad advice to me.
Mo

You didn't fall for it :(

You could always scam in a trade hub. Or, if you're really suicidal, scam in a goon trade hub, it would be hilarious.

A signature :o
1GeneraL 10SoldaT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-01-20 03:37:50 UTC
What is this PI thing you speak of , do i shoot the planet ?
Or ?

How do the tears come out ? and how do i store them ?

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#18 - 2016-01-20 05:21:11 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:


...I miss highsec warfare they was it was in 2012... Bring back old aggro... For the love of Eve...






Yep, it's a lot harder to find fights.

Which has made those of us that look for fights extremely good at it.

Freighter suppression has gone from a novelty carried out by bored blobs of Goons, into a professionalized, optimized, streamlined death machine.

You should pack all of your PI materials in a freighter, and autopilot from Jita to Dodixie sometime.

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HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#19 - 2016-01-20 13:21:24 UTC  |  Edited by: HoleySheet1
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
[quote=Mobadder Thworst]

...I miss highsec warfare they was it was in 2012... Bring back old aggro... For the love of Eve...






That's my main platform for csm. The retribution patch hit Eve hard. It was a bad idea and we need it fixed for the sake of eve. The old aggro system was fine, many good players left because of the suspect timers and killrights. Granted there would be some ammendments, like maybe a docking timer on logi, but eve community numbers have dwindled since then and we should roll back some of the changes. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-01-20 13:39:51 UTC
1GeneraL 10SoldaT wrote:
What is this PI thing you speak of , do i shoot the planet ?
Or ?

How do the tears come out ? and how do i store them ?



I've googled this which makes me an expert. Surprisingly, you cannot shoot the planet.

Tears, for the Eve industrialist, are not harvested or gotten in the way the C&P community would think. I thought certainly tears or something equivalent, would come from PI.

After a thorough examination, I'm nearly certain that industrialists have to "manufacture" their own tears. I've made a few just in trying to figure out how PI works.

I can imagine long-term PI would be a bountiful source of tears, but I'm simply not masochistic enough to walk this path. I like other people's tears better.
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