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Horsepower for multiboxing?
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Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#21 - 2016-01-10 16:02:20 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Min settings for one.
Programs like ISBoxer also allow you to do things with your screen real estate so you aren't alt tabbing between your EVE instances which also helps.


Might just want to steer clear of ISboxer and trying to run a dozen accounts at once with it.

Do a little digging on these here forums for an explanation as to why that's the case...

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2016-01-10 20:51:06 UTC
Amarrchecko wrote:
You should be able to make a billion in an HOUR of mining with 18 accounts.
You're not going to be making 56m per account while running 18 maxed out miners. Since he's running an op he's most likely to have 16 accounts doing the actual mining (at most) which means he'd have to make 63m an hour per miner. Managing that many accounts means you're not going to be anywhere near the actual max capability of those miners. So in reality the potential maximum isk per hour would have to be more like 90m an hour per miner. Where are you making 90m an hour with a miner, booster and ore hauler?


Leeluvv wrote:

You don't have 4GB of usable memory. 32 bit XP assigns 2GB to applications and 1.5GB to Windows, of which Windows won't use anywhere near that much. i.e. You have 2GB for any non-Windows applications.

For dual boxing, I reccomend not running multiple copies of Eve from the same installation folder. To do this you need to make a symbolic link with mklink for each additional copy of Eve you want to run. Windows now lies to itself, pretending it has extra copies of Eve in different folders, whereas it is actually reading the information from the original location. This way also allows you to assign different quality settings to each copy. I run my main account at full details and the others at low settings.

The way to use mklink is as follows:

Open command prompt, preferably as admin.
Go to the Folder Eve is installed in.
Type the following for each copy you want:

mklink /D New_Eve_Folder_Name Current_Eve_Folder_Name

For me, I was in D:\Games and used 'mklink /D Eve2 Eve'. So I now have D:\Games\Eve and D:\Games\Eve2. Create a shortcut to Eve.exe from the new Eve location and you're good to go. You can now have 2 Eve launchers simultaneously. This also means that when you patch the original version, all versions are patched.

Each copy of Eve will use 600-750 MB of RAM and 300MB of Video RAM.

That's a lot of work for basically no reason. I don't know any boxers that bother doing that anymore. I only do it because I have one install for when I box eve in windowed mode and one install for regular play. So I can have two different window setups with respective overviews and such.

Eve doesn't use 300mb of VRAM per client for me. My gtx660 only has 2 GB of VRAM which according to your info means it's impossible for me to 12 box like I do.

Eve memory usage depends on your OS as MS has introduced some optimizations that results in an increase of RAM usage per client in win7 vs XP. Hell even win 8.1 uses slightly more ram per client than win 7. I haven't installed windows 10 on anything so I don't know if it continues the trend. The extra memory is used by the OS to improve performance.

Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Min settings for one.
Programs like ISBoxer also allow you to do things with your screen real estate so you aren't alt tabbing between your EVE instances which also helps.


Might just want to steer clear of ISboxer and trying to run a dozen accounts at once with it.

Do a little digging on these here forums for an explanation as to why that's the case...

What are you talking about? EVE-O does the same window management stuff and it's got a CCP dev helping to develop it.

Just steer clear of repeaters/macros/etc and it's fine.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#23 - 2016-01-10 22:45:12 UTC
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Min settings for one.
Programs like ISBoxer also allow you to do things with your screen real estate so you aren't alt tabbing between your EVE instances which also helps.


Might just want to steer clear of ISboxer and trying to run a dozen accounts at once with it.

Do a little digging on these here forums for an explanation as to why that's the case...

ISboxer is not "illegal" per se. Certain functions (specifically "broadcasting" actions to multiple clients) are "illegal." And this applies to pretty much any multi-client program.

But you can still use ISboxer.


Fun fact: macroing is still considered "legal" as long as it applies only to a single client.

How did you Veterans start?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#24 - 2016-01-10 22:52:21 UTC
I now have:

- i7 on L2011-v3 socket with 6 core / 12 thread
- 64 GB of RAM
- R3 390 Radeon graphics card.

It does nothing to counter-act TiDi P

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-01-11 03:35:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
ShahFluffers wrote:
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Min settings for one.
Programs like ISBoxer also allow you to do things with your screen real estate so you aren't alt tabbing between your EVE instances which also helps.


Might just want to steer clear of ISboxer and trying to run a dozen accounts at once with it.

Do a little digging on these here forums for an explanation as to why that's the case...

ISboxer is not "illegal" per se. Certain functions (specifically "broadcasting" actions to multiple clients) are "illegal." And this applies to pretty much any multi-client program.

But you can still use ISboxer.


Fun fact: macroing is still considered "legal" as long as it applies only to a single client.
If you're talking about a macro that hits f1 then f2 then f3 when you hit one button then that is ILLEGAL now (doesn't matter if it's your keyboard doing it either). This was covered in the thread linked earlier. Anything like that is considered automated gameplay.
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