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My Retirement Gift To EVE: The Shark Tank

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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
#21 - 2016-01-10 00:40:58 UTC
Quote:
If a pillar of the community holding the funds isn’t enough...


No, it's not enough.

It doesn't matter if Chribba holds the funds, the game is still rigged.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#22 - 2016-01-10 00:41:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Why aren't you using a neutral third party to hold all of the ISK, possibly even a panel of neutral judges and donating the 500m fees to PLEX for Good rather than have them line your pocket in the event of there being no winner. Hell, why not just simply donate your wealth to PLEX for Good?

You've designed this in such a way that it looks exactly like a scam, and much like a scam you request that we blindly trust you (because this time it's different, honest), when you have proven that you are not to be trusted. Redesign this so it doesn't look exactly like your previous scams and you might get some interest.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#23 - 2016-01-10 00:46:44 UTC
Will you be selling any bridges along with this gift? Because I really could use a good, sturdy bridge right about now.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-01-10 01:07:21 UTC
I thought posting scams was OT in General Discussions, shouldn't this be in marketplace or For New Players or something like that.
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2016-01-10 04:09:44 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Why aren't you using a neutral third party to hold all of the ISK, possibly even a panel of neutral judges and donating the 500m fees to PLEX for Good rather than have them line your pocket in the event of there being no winner. Hell, why not just simply donate your wealth to PLEX for Good?

You've designed this in such a way that it looks exactly like a scam, and much like a scam you request that we blindly trust you (because this time it's different, honest), when you have proven that you are not to be trusted. Redesign this so it doesn't look exactly like your previous scams and you might get some interest.



First and foremost its my isk. This is how I want to leave EVE and whatever the result I'm happy with it. Making you personally happy isn't what this is about. In a sporting arena there are two places to be: on the field or in the stands.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#26 - 2016-01-10 04:35:54 UTC
Scooter McCabe wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Why aren't you using a neutral third party to hold all of the ISK, possibly even a panel of neutral judges and donating the 500m fees to PLEX for Good rather than have them line your pocket in the event of there being no winner. Hell, why not just simply donate your wealth to PLEX for Good?

You've designed this in such a way that it looks exactly like a scam, and much like a scam you request that we blindly trust you (because this time it's different, honest), when you have proven that you are not to be trusted. Redesign this so it doesn't look exactly like your previous scams and you might get some interest.



First and foremost its my isk. This is how I want to leave EVE and whatever the result I'm happy with it. Making you personally happy isn't what this is about. In a sporting arena there are two places to be: on the field or in the stands.



So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2016-01-10 06:52:22 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:


So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?






Doc consider the following: I send you something and you post "Oh wow he isn't kidding." Someone would turn around and post that you are my alt or a goon alt. If your fellow EVE buddies came running to your defense saying you are who you are they would be called alt accounts or goon alts.

In fact right now someone reading this who can no longer tell the difference between a game and real life is thinking of posting "Doc is a goon alt shilling for Scooter so Scooter can write this response and try to meta game us all."

So on that note you are welcome to enter the contest if you have a great idea and I look forward to you and the other contestants coming on the Open Comms Show.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#28 - 2016-01-10 08:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Yeah, it'd be a funny turn of events if this time you were really telling the truth and fully intended to be completely honest in this endeavour.

The problem is you've cultivated exactly the opposite kind of reputation you need to pull this off properly. You could even intend to be somewhat honest about this, but because of your reputation you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel as usual and only get a few desperate or greedy people submitting ideas, the same kind of people who fell for your previous scams. In the end you'll get a few bad ideas, a few billion ISK and you can claim there was no winner while you pocket the money. This isn't even good enough to get some laughs.
Solecist Project
#29 - 2016-01-10 08:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Scooter McCabe wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:


So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?






Doc consider the following: I send you something and you post "Oh wow he isn't kidding." Someone would turn around and post that you are my alt or a goon alt. If your fellow EVE buddies came running to your defense saying you are who you are they would be called alt accounts or goon alts.

In fact right now someone reading this who can no longer tell the difference between a game and real life is thinking of posting "Doc is a goon alt shilling for Scooter so Scooter can write this response and try to meta game us all."

So on that note you are welcome to enter the contest if you have a great idea and I look forward to you and the other contestants coming on the Open Comms Show.

There is a need to post.

People, don't listen to him. He's dishonest and an ass. Just look at the crap he writes. Everyone who believes he's a scammer and how this is just one more scam suddenly is disconnected from reality, when this guy never ever was anything else but a scammer and a goon.


1. They want your ideas, will attempt to implement them and will brag about it.
2. This is about control, not helping the game.
3. They want your money! 500 Mill so they get to take your ideas!
4. You have no guarantee you'll get the money. (anyone not Chribba simply isn't fully trustworthy)
5. He's a goon. Why aren't imperium members allowed to participate? Because goons don't scam goons.


Let the baka from reddit participate.
Two trillion isk are a guaranteed burnout in the hand of these imbeciles.

Anyone who believes this person is legit ...
... ignoring his past history ...
... is definitely disconnected from reality.

Don't give them your ideas, you will regret it.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#30 - 2016-01-10 10:08:01 UTC
"I am leaving the game! Send me 500M so I can QUADQUIDRUPLE it, or not. I am honest, really.

PS: Dont forget to write how to make game better."

Post that in Jita, OP, where is its place.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2016-01-10 12:04:50 UTC
Send me the 500m and I'll double it.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2016-01-10 12:08:26 UTC
Droidster wrote:
I thought posting scams was OT in General Discussions, shouldn't this be in marketplace or For New Players or something like that.


WHAHAHAHA

Really,

YOu suggest to put this in the New Player part,


Seriously..



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ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#33 - 2016-01-10 12:46:18 UTC
Shouldnt this be in crime and punisment? Pirate

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

Luca Lure
Obertura
#34 - 2016-01-10 13:35:56 UTC
Who insures us that Big Country is not going to buy pizza for 2 tril ISK after which we can call him BIgger Country?

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Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2016-01-10 15:27:29 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Yeah, it'd be a funny turn of events if this time you were really telling the truth and fully intended to be completely honest in this endeavour.

The problem is you've cultivated exactly the opposite kind of reputation you need to pull this off properly. You could even intend to be somewhat honest about this, but because of your reputation you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel as usual and only get a few desperate or greedy people submitting ideas, the same kind of people who fell for your previous scams. In the end you'll get a few bad ideas, a few billion ISK and you can claim there was no winner while you pocket the money. This isn't even good enough to get some laughs.



No I absolutely was a scammer and yes there will be some that just stay away from this because of that fact. That's fine by me. But I doubt there will be a few bad ideas. I don't think you give our community the credit it deserves and even though you won't be participating I hope you will watch and support those that do.
BigCountry
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#36 - 2016-01-10 15:41:48 UTC
i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#37 - 2016-01-10 16:00:21 UTC
ArmyOfMe wrote:
Shouldnt this be in crime and punisment? Pirate


It ought to be...somewhere...but not hereRoll Maybe OOPE as it's a "I quit" post?

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

Memphis Baas
#38 - 2016-01-10 16:07:17 UTC
So what exactly do you imagine you or CCP will be doing with this great idea that we'll be pooping out?

Cause I don't think "ideas" is where CCP is lacking. Manpower, ability to follow through, quality of implementation, sure. Ideas? I imagine their hundred employees and who knows how many volunteers and all of us on the forums can poop out millions of ideas each day.

This is why it's a scam; you're making a crusade to "save EVE" based on something that's worthless.

Here's a free idea: CCP should seize the assets of anyone who declares they're quitting EVE, because they're quitting after all, and CCP can put the ISK and PLEXes to use to pay their bills or for PLEX4Good. Will also eliminate all the fake drama "I quit" posts.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#39 - 2016-01-10 16:34:48 UTC
BigCountry wrote:
i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something

I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners.

But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK.

/c

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#40 - 2016-01-10 17:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Chribba wrote:
BigCountry wrote:
i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something

I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners.

But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK.

/c


Of course a community vote would be the fairest for contestants, but like Scooter said before; it is his ISK and he wants to decide where it goes.

If people want to give away their ideas then that's up to them, but the biggest issue is the non-refundable entry fee that encourages Scooter to act as he has countless times in the past, simply stating he doesn't like any of the ideas offered while keeping the ISK. If the entry fee were to go to a charitable cause this conflict of interest would be resolved and trolls would still be deterred, it's not like Scooter cares about the ISK since he's quitting, right?