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My Retirement Gift To EVE: The Shark Tank

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Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2016-01-09 19:19:13 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2016-01-09 19:23:00 UTC
Can i have your stuff?
Krevnos
Back Door Burglars
#3 - 2016-01-09 19:24:42 UTC
Now I wouldn't be the type to question your 'good character', given my own rather jaded background. However, I must ask this:

May I enquire as to why there is an entry fee when the final outcome is to donate all you own?
Memphis Baas
#4 - 2016-01-09 19:26:28 UTC
To prove that you're serious, of course. Roll

Obvious scam is obvious.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-01-09 19:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Obvious scam is obvious...
Let me guess, by magic your alt or a friend wins...

And if you leave, I do act as a caretaker for stuff that should be sent to UaE when you leave.

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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#6 - 2016-01-09 20:21:11 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Can i have your stuff?


The entry fee is only 500m isk, then you can have his stuff

Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com

Legion Masser
KROOKBORNE
Seventh Sanctum.
#7 - 2016-01-09 20:23:44 UTC
Bahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah hahahahaa hahaha

Really?

Question: What do you do with a Character that is synonymous with scamming??? So tarnished that regular scamming can no longer yield any results?


Answer: Host an "Im Quitting" final scam that requires participants to pay an entry fee , but make sure to state the event is not open to your own Alliance and disguise it with a "Make Eve Better" theme .

Twisted Cuz everyone knows The Imperium and Scammers have always wanted Eve to be a better place for everyone Twisted

Funny Stuff

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Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2016-01-09 22:00:56 UTC
Krevnos wrote:
Now I wouldn't be the type to question your 'good character', given my own rather jaded background. However, I must ask this:

May I enquire as to why there is an entry fee when the final outcome is to donate all you own?



The entry fees go into the pot. So my ill gotten isk and the entry fees go to the winner. I fully expect a number of people will or would try to enter this and just throw spaghetti against a wall in hopes of hitting the lotto. So 500 million is this big scary number:


  • Its economically prohibitive.

  • The amount itself in connection to anything Goon related has become a boogeyman in its own right.

    The incredibly cynical turn their nose up at the mention of it.


I don't expect good ideas to come from the fearful or cynical because they never put skin into the "game" in EVE or real life. As for the greedy, well they will have to risk losing and my experience at the poker tables is that the greedy run away from anything that puts them at risk. They like easy wins and holding onto their poker chips. Anything that asks them to take a risk tends to have them batten down the hatches and wait things out.


Either way something very neat will happen. We will have hopefully a number of great ideas come out with one being considered the best. Now the best idea will have that 2 trillion plus entry fees to make it happen, but those other ideas may find homes and people willing to help.

Now if paranoia and cynicism take hold over this event I think a conversation about that will happen. Its a conversation that at some point will have to take place. The levels of toxicity in places like Reddit and produced by certain players, you know who you are, gets to be examined. What is really worth having in a game, who is really worth having around?

Is a scammer that does his or her thing in game and leaves it all in game worse than someone who hops on Reddit or EVEnews24 makes wild assertions and encourages other players to punch someone in the face if they ever see them?

My hope is simply to see the best of us come together and do something no other game can do.
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#9 - 2016-01-09 22:11:09 UTC
If you want to put everyone at ease, the solution is very very simple.

Have Chribba hold onto it.

I love Big Country and 'The Open Comms Show'.....But even I laughed when you announced on Tues. that you wanted BC to hold it.

Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com

Borat Guereen
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-01-09 22:15:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Borat Guereen
Even if this is very likely a scam, I have chosen to participate and submit my Alliance's project, Chao3, to this "event".

I value what Big Country himself brings to the community, and at worst I will see this as a gift to BC for his achievements (he has the best laugh of the podcasters, and is a cool dude...).
BC, you got half a billion incoming from me, and if I win this, the half-billion will still be yours.

Now if this is not a scam and If I win, these ISKs will be used to continue developing our alliance, fighting against taxes in-game, and establishing our Minarchist Revolution in New Eden.

Candidate for CSM XII

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-01-09 22:20:13 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Can i have your stuff?


The entry fee is only 500m isk, then you can have his stuff


son?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#12 - 2016-01-09 22:45:34 UTC
I'd be happy to assist should OP decide to take that path to ease peoples minds.

/c

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#13 - 2016-01-09 22:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
OP, I gave ideas for free, CCP have stuff for millenia from others. Look, people are honest, not like you. They heve been doing that for years because they have good intentions.

You would only scam people.
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2016-01-09 23:02:01 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I'd be happy to assist should OP decide to take that path to ease peoples minds.

/c


If you want to touch base with BigCountry of The Open Comms Show I am fine with you holding the entry fees. If you are available that night I'd love to have you on board as one of the commentators.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#15 - 2016-01-09 23:38:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Proposal: Give money to a guy so he decides if you're worthy to get it 4,000x.

I'd rather take a chance with a raffle than trust anyone's honesty in judging who's the winner. But then, the person asking the money is someone who's known for being a liar...

WTF, dude.


Case A: "I've been a liar, but that was a lie, I am a honest guy so here have this generous final act!"
Case B: "I've ben a liar, and I was honest about it. So this is my biggest lie ever!"

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.
Leonardo Adami
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-01-09 23:41:46 UTC
Rofl gtfo, goon asking for 500 mil entrance fee. This is not a scam. Please Roll
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-01-09 23:56:16 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I'd be happy to assist should OP decide to take that path to ease peoples minds.

/c



This.


Using Chribba would put 99.99% of the people's mind at easy

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#18 - 2016-01-10 00:01:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
You know using Chribba would only sanction the ISKgrab. This still can be rigged so OP gets all the ISK. If you dont know how, you deserve to give him 500M. Roll
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#19 - 2016-01-10 00:17:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
The reason this isn't open to the CFC is because you're not allowed to scam blues.

How can he give his whole fortune to a "pubbie" and still help his alliance?

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Scooter announced his plan to give his total amassed fortune of over two trillion ISK (2,000,000,000,000 ISK and change) to the player that submits the best idea to help the Eve community as a whole.


Quote:
First and most important, the competition is open to anyone that is not in the Imperium. According to Scooter, this is both because the Imperium is getting its own parting gift, and because the Imperium already encourages development on its own.
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2016-01-10 00:36:18 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
The reason this isn't open to the CFC is because you're not allowed to scam blues.

How can he give his whole fortune to a "pubbie" and still help his alliance?

Quote:
Scooter announced his plan to give his total amassed fortune of over two trillion ISK (2,000,000,000,000 ISK and change) to the player that submits the best idea to help the Eve community as a whole.


Quote:
First and most important, the competition is open to anyone that is not in the Imperium. According to Scooter, this is both because the Imperium is getting its own parting gift, and because the Imperium already encourages development on its own.


Quote:
Now when the most famous of Eve Online scammers asks for 500 million ISK, a healthy amount of skepticism is not only expected, but encouraged. To that end, Scooter has elected for BigCountry to receive and manage the ISK. If a pillar of the community holding the funds isn’t enough, Scooter had this to say: “If there is one thing EVE has taught me, no matter what you do, there will never be an ‘assurance’ that is good enough. Either I go out doing something good for the community, or if that community is just to paranoid about this, I get a great laugh because of the irony.”
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