EVE General Discussion

I don't know why you care what posts I like and don't.

…which means that it proves your point even less than it does in its current state (which is not a whole lot since it holds no information about voters, their voting patterns, and the supposed control over these voters).


“Good” and “surprising” by what measure? Your personal preference and knowledge?

You're not bothered that the thing you attempted to pass off as a source to your claims aren't sources, and that thus far none of your claims are substantiated? You're not bothered by the fact that your attempt to explain away why your "source" is bunk, itself is bunk?
You're not bothered by being shown to be wrong?
I'm just checking. Because so far, all you've tried is to throw sand in our eyes every time we've asked for any evidence at all.

There are really two questions:
What evidence do you have to say that CFC controls any given percentage of the voters?
Why do you want one allegedly voting group disenfranchised to make them equal to a group that allegedly doesn't vote?

So because people didn't vote for the candidates you liked, and did vote for other candidates, CFC must control all voters?

1) Core's shadow.
2) Had recently returned to EVE.
3) Not a people pleaser.

... but keep making your fantasies.

And that returns us neatly to my question.
When you acknowledge that it was your own faults as a candidate that turned voters away from you and towards better, more known candidates, why do you want to disenfranchise CFC voters? They had nothing to do with the issues you identify that make voters vote for those who aren't you.

It seems to me that you're working on a project to make the CFC out to be the bad guys, when in this regard they're more likely to be found among the good guys. CFC leadership was among the first of nullsec coalitions to really build a determined campaign to get votes and translate those votes into seats. The CFC may have increased voter turnout like no other group has. Why do you blame them, when you really ought to work together with them?

I vote for people who I think have cool looking avatars

I'm very interested in politics, both IRL (It's what I do and study) and in space. I'm also uncertain whether the "last 40 odd posts" is really accurate. I spent some time goodpoasting with Sol as well.

Likewise, I'm not sure whether it'd change anything if I really am an alt (Although I'm not, just to clarify). Take my arguments at their merits, unless I specifically refer to my RL expertise in any such matters. If you're trying to imply that I am doing CFC PR, then feel free to check out my alliance history, though it still wouldn't change my arguments.

Remember, the CSM is not a very influential political body - it reflects the views of some players, but not all.
To be honest, ever since I've been playing EVE (June 2014) I have never heard of the CSM, nor do I care what they do as their opinions do not matter to me. In fact, the CSM actually annoys me because the votes are never serious and Goons are usually picked as members for the lulz.
And jeez, why would you vote for Bees when their space is literally crawling with bubbles and Sabre patrols?

Back on track:

My experience of crossing High Sec multiple times and talking to people was that they didn't know the CSM existed nor what it does.

That is what is relevant.

Because it's funny how people who you never see posting all of a sudden come out of the woodwork for very specific threads and uses, frantically and feverishly debating points for a specific faction.