Crime & Punishment

I wouldn't know, just kicking dust in the air, see where it will fall down.

TL;DR Is basically a, "Not my Fault, They are to Blame"



And As much as you don't like to hear that Sol.

You did a **** job at managing the alliance. You lost two corps before you where kicked which started all this. You had two corps who were upset with you. Two corp who you ignored completely in favor of another. Even though the two you ignored had completely and utterly valid points and should've been handled as such. You made a poor choice and you got punished for it.

I think everyone can assume you wanted to run the alliance effectively and that your intentions were good, however

You are to defense of person to be in leadership that if someone tells you, that you suck. You completely shut them out and cop out. Going out of your way to further yourself from them. People do it a lot. It's easier to shove negativity away then it is actually deal with it proactively. People did not like you as leader, and you insured that through actions that you probably weren't going to step down willingly, or that any sort of talks with you would lead to you predictably shutting people out and ignoring them.


And if you going to blame me for my smack and all the people who left the alliance for keeping the isk, is rather immature as I left alliance and me saying anything towards you, honestly, shouldn't really effect you. Those who left the alliance also had problems with you. You took the isk because people had a problem with the way you managed. You couldn't handle the negativity.

You've obviously done this before, your not some victim in this and playing the victim card now, is kinda idiotic. A week after running your mouth in an equally trollish fashion. You now want to say, it's not my fault they asked for it?

It's little obvious that your just grasping at straws and tugging strings for the hell of it at this point. Trying to play an angle for **** and giggles, or your trying to create enough of an aura of doubt around the subject that you may get into another alliance and get a second chance at running an alliance.

But real talk? Yeah?

I really think you are to defensive of a person to run an alliance. You need to get over that personality quirk and recognize as an issue if you want to be better as a leader. Listening to criticism and responding accurately is a very powerful way to run a team of people. Learning to deal with how people communicate with out becoming offended, or at least making choices that are not influenced by your personal feelings.

Sol epoch, stop lying.

Here's a sequence of events to show his real intentions:
1. Sol transfers isk from citadel contracts out of corp wallet and mentions that he is "this close to closing the alliance."
2. I ask the isk to be put back or given to me as I am and have always been the isk distributor for such contracts. I have handled more than 40b from citadels since being in the alliance. I am the one doing the ops and distributing the isk to the pilots who fly with me.
3. Sol refuses and keeps the isk in his alt wallet.
4. During events 1-3, several other alliance members and corps have problem with Sol's dictatorship and begin to leave.
5. I decide to leave too so wanted to negotiate with Sol about citadel contracts that are already in hull to complete the contracts and get me and those who flew with me fair pay.
6. Sol kicks me out of alliance during negotiations stating that I will get nothing.

7. Client asks for his money back for a contract that we haven't even touched yet seeing as all the pilots that are going on the citadel bashes have left the alliance.
8. Sol refuses then flatly ignores client's mails afterward.

9. Loreth tries to convince Sol to put the isk back into alliance. Sol refuses.
10 Loreth steps in to take control of alliance.
11. Sirus steals the rest of the alliance isk.
12. Loreth asks for the isk back.
13. Sol refuses and stops responding.
14. We kick Sol and Sirus's corp for being thieves and name you for the thieves you are on the forums


You already admitted that the isk was alliance's, so taking it for yourself is the definition of stealing. The fact is, most of the isk weren't even alliance's. They belonged to the pilots who actually showed up to complete the contracts. All this excuse to justify taking our isk is just pathetic.

Just admit that you are poor and maybe you'll even get a few people to throw some pennies your way.

Sol-less epoch that verbal fight we had about alliance isk is starting to make a ton of sense, you've been stealing all along its why our war count dipped, so obvious.

Wake up Sol, your a self admitted alliance thief now, your pretty much screwed out of any real alliance anyway... And you've been transferring money since Fergusonftw incident which I'll remind everyone here that you promoted him to director and gave him access.

Oh and way to throw sirus your only friend under the bus in that last post... Obviously the isk is more important to you then your friends. Enjoy your lonely Eve career, can't wait to see you in the war.

I have to admit this makes me laugh a bit every time you repeat it...

How many of your targets said the exact same thing about you?

What was your response to them?

You'd have to log on first to figure out if I was on or not, and secondly logs show that we had plenty of extra isk for wars, you were just lazy.

So are you no longer Mercs?

By your post you are now a structure destruction alliance!

...You really suck at this Sol...

i love how you never answer my direct proof of your duplicity. Good redirects.

Shh it's getting to the good part